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  • SplitSecond
    Undisputed Champion
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    #11
    Vitaly Klitschko

    Power 7
    Physical attributes 10
    Hand speed 5
    Footwork 6
    Defense 5
    Durability 8
    Heart 6
    Killer instinct 8
    Endurance 7
    Ring generalship 8

    Total points 70

    Wlad Klitschko


    Power 9
    Physical attributes 10
    Hand speed 8
    Footwork 7
    Defense 5
    Durability 5
    Heart 5
    Killer instinct 6
    Endurance 5
    Ring generalship 9

    Total points 69

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    • Jam Jars
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      #12
      Physical attributes is for height, reach and weight advantages? I don't know how anyone can have him above a 6 he's not a big WW and is a small JMW.

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      • yoz
        Yoz
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        #13
        Floyd Mayweather

        Power 6
        Physical attributes 8
        Hand speed 10
        Footwork 10
        Defense 10
        Durability 10
        Heart 10
        Killer instinct 7
        Endurance 10
        Ring generalship 10

        Total points 91

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        • Kagami Taiga
          Generation of Miracles
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          • Mar 2010
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          #14
          Originally posted by JAB5239
          The Rating Scale
          Each fighter is ranked on the chart on a ten- point system. 5 is the standard rating, 5 represents the average heavyweight skill level in any given category. 10 points is considered a Superior rating, and 1 would be Non-existent. The rating for each fighter is determined by an examination of their skills when at their peak as a champion.

          1- Non-Existent
          2- Poor
          3- Fair
          4- Below Average
          5 –Average
          6- Above Average
          7- Good/Solid
          8- Very Good
          9- Excellent
          10-Superior/ the best or among the best.

          1. POWER

          Power is the great equalizer, and reflects how hard a fighter hits in relation to other heavyweights, and his ability in punching effectiveness. Again 5 is average, a 10 represents that the named fighter is one of the hardest punchers in division history. 9 represents an outstanding knockout puncher. 8 means he is capable of delivering a one punch knockout, though this may not be his bread and butter dependency. 7 is a good puncher but not a real knockout fighter. 6 is above average in power and so on.

          2. PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES

          This category gives credence to a heavyweights overall size and encompasses height, reach and weight advantages. Unlike Power punching, footwork, defense and ring generalship this is not a skill category but merely a "measurement" of physical attributes.

          3. HAND SPEED

          Hand Speed is gauged by the speed with which a fighter lands from point A to point B. It is the ability to beat the opponent to the punch.


          4. FOOTWORK

          One doesn't have to be fleet-footed to rate highly in this category, but it does help. Footwork includes the ability to avoid punches by side stepping, sliding, and dancing out of harm's way. It also includes the ability to rush or spring forward and/or the ability cut the ring to maneuver an opponent to the ropes.

          5. DEFENSE

          A fighter’s defensive ability is defined as boxing skills used to avoid punches. Classic defense is the ability to slip punches with the movement of the head or bending at the waist, parry with the open glove (or closed glove), block jabs with the rear hand, block punches at the elbow, and properly hold ones hand so as not to be open for counters. Another part of defense is “defensive tactics”, such as clinching, smothering, and the use of the crouch or the bob and weave to change ones target level, and turning sideways to offer less of a target.

          6. DURABILITY

          This category rates the fighter’s ability to take a punch and absorb punishment, and recover from a knockdown. How well can a fighter take a punch without being kayoed, how well can he take a punch without going down, and how well can he fight when hurt? All must be considered when rating the champions in this category. Some heavyweights have "glass jaws" and are easily kayoed, while others were knocked down easily but were much harder to knock out. A fighter who has been knocked out cannot receive a 10 (unless way past his prime).

          7. HEART

          A fighter displays Heart when he shows that he has the WILL to win when the chips are down. It comprises the qualities of guts, courage, and determination against all odds of winning a fight.

          8. KILLER INSTINCT

          A fighter with a Killer Instinct will finish off an opponent when he is hurt. Whether this is accomplished by one well placed blow or a through a combination of punches. Killer Instinct is the thirst for blood, knowing your opponent is ready to go and taking him out. This is an important category and should not be taken lightly. A good finisher with killer instinct can keep an opponent from getting back into a fight.


          9. ENDURANCE

          A fighters stamina and endurance is a critical factor in determining how he can maintain his effectiveness over the course of a scheduled boxing match. A fighter that retains his knockout punch to the last round should score higher than one who tires easily. A fighter who is a proven 15 round fighter should score better than one who was known to tire in 12 rounds.

          10. RING GENERALSHIP

          Ring Generalship is a broad category that includes a fighter’s command of the action in the squared ring. The ability to dictate the tempo of a fight. The ability to outbox boxers, and out punch punchers. It includes the ability of a fighter to lull his opponent into fighting his kind of tactical fight. Ring Strategy and Tactics are keys to this category.

          Floyd Mayweather

          Power 7
          Physical attributes 7
          Hand speed 8
          Footwork 9
          Defense 10
          Durability 8
          Heart 8
          Killer instinct 7
          Endurance 9
          Ring generalship 9

          Total points 82
          Power 6
          Physical Attributes 8
          Handspeed 9
          Footwork 10
          Defense 10
          Durability 7
          Heart 8
          Killer Instinct 7
          Endurance 10
          Ring Generalship 10

          85

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          • SplitSecond
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            #15
            Floyd Mayweather

            Power 7
            Physical attributes 7
            Hand speed 8
            Footwork 7
            Defense 9
            Durability 8
            Heart 10
            Killer instinct 7
            Endurance 9
            Ring generalship 8

            Total points 80

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            • One Of A Kind
              Contender
              Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
              • Sep 2011
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              #16
              Power 7
              Physical attributes 7
              Hand speed 8
              Footwork 10
              Defense 10
              Durability 8
              Heart 5
              Killer instinct 6
              Endurance 9
              Ring generalship 10

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              • bMak
                Interim Champion
                • Jan 2009
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                #17
                Vitali Klitschko

                Power 9
                Physical attributes 10
                Hand speed 7
                Footwork 9
                Defense 7
                Durability 6
                Heart 7
                Killer instinct 9
                Endurance 7
                Ring generalship 9

                Total points 80

                Wladimir Klitschko


                Power 10
                Physical attributes 10
                Hand speed 8
                Footwork 9
                Defense 9
                Durability 7
                Heart 6
                Killer instinct 9
                Endurance 8
                Ring generalship 10

                Total points 86

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                • bMak
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                  #18
                  Tough critics here too huh?

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                  • Jam Jars
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by bMak
                    Vitali Klitschko

                    Power 9
                    Physical attributes 10
                    Hand speed 7
                    Footwork 9
                    Defense 7
                    Durability 6
                    Heart 7
                    Killer instinct 9
                    Endurance 7
                    Ring generalship 9

                    Total points 80

                    Wladimir Klitschko


                    Power 10
                    Physical attributes 10
                    Hand speed 8
                    Footwork 9
                    Defense 9
                    Durability 7
                    Heart 6
                    Killer instinct 9
                    Endurance 8
                    Ring generalship 10

                    Total points 86
                    Wlads durability higher than Vitali's?

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                    • JAB5239
                      Dallas Cowboys
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                      • Dec 2007
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                      #20
                      Rate Manny statistically

                      The Rating Scale
                      Each fighter is ranked on the chart on a ten- point system. 5 is the standard rating, 5 represents the average heavyweight skill level in any given category. 10 points is considered a Superior rating, and 1 would be Non-existent. The rating for each fighter is determined by an examination of their skills when at their peak as a champion.

                      1- Non-Existent
                      2- Poor
                      3- Fair
                      4- Below Average
                      5 –Average
                      6- Above Average
                      7- Good/Solid
                      8- Very Good
                      9- Excellent
                      10-Superior/ the best or among the best.

                      1. POWER

                      Power is the great equalizer, and reflects how hard a fighter hits in relation to other heavyweights, and his ability in punching effectiveness. Again 5 is average, a 10 represents that the named fighter is one of the hardest punchers in division history. 9 represents an outstanding knockout puncher. 8 means he is capable of delivering a one punch knockout, though this may not be his bread and butter dependency. 7 is a good puncher but not a real knockout fighter. 6 is above average in power and so on.

                      2. PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES

                      This category gives credence to a heavyweights overall size and encompasses height, reach and weight advantages. Unlike Power punching, footwork, defense and ring generalship this is not a skill category but merely a "measurement" of physical attributes.

                      3. HAND SPEED

                      Hand Speed is gauged by the speed with which a fighter lands from point A to point B. It is the ability to beat the opponent to the punch.


                      4. FOOTWORK

                      One doesn't have to be fleet-footed to rate highly in this category, but it does help. Footwork includes the ability to avoid punches by side stepping, sliding, and dancing out of harm's way. It also includes the ability to rush or spring forward and/or the ability cut the ring to maneuver an opponent to the ropes.

                      5. DEFENSE

                      A fighter’s defensive ability is defined as boxing skills used to avoid punches. Classic defense is the ability to slip punches with the movement of the head or bending at the waist, parry with the open glove (or closed glove), block jabs with the rear hand, block punches at the elbow, and properly hold ones hand so as not to be open for counters. Another part of defense is “defensive tactics”, such as clinching, smothering, and the use of the crouch or the bob and weave to change ones target level, and turning sideways to offer less of a target.

                      6. DURABILITY

                      This category rates the fighter’s ability to take a punch and absorb punishment, and recover from a knockdown. How well can a fighter take a punch without being kayoed, how well can he take a punch without going down, and how well can he fight when hurt? All must be considered when rating the champions in this category. Some heavyweights have "glass jaws" and are easily kayoed, while others were knocked down easily but were much harder to knock out. A fighter who has been knocked out cannot receive a 10 (unless way past his prime).

                      7. HEART

                      A fighter displays Heart when he shows that he has the WILL to win when the chips are down. It comprises the qualities of guts, courage, and determination against all odds of winning a fight.

                      8. KILLER INSTINCT

                      A fighter with a Killer Instinct will finish off an opponent when he is hurt. Whether this is accomplished by one well placed blow or a through a combination of punches. Killer Instinct is the thirst for blood, knowing your opponent is ready to go and taking him out. This is an important category and should not be taken lightly. A good finisher with killer instinct can keep an opponent from getting back into a fight.


                      9. ENDURANCE

                      A fighters stamina and endurance is a critical factor in determining how he can maintain his effectiveness over the course of a scheduled boxing match. A fighter that retains his knockout punch to the last round should score higher than one who tires easily. A fighter who is a proven 15 round fighter should score better than one who was known to tire in 12 rounds.

                      10. RING GENERALSHIP

                      Ring Generalship is a broad category that includes a fighter’s command of the action in the squared ring. The ability to dictate the tempo of a fight. The ability to outbox boxers, and out punch punchers. It includes the ability of a fighter to lull his opponent into fighting his kind of tactical fight. Ring Strategy and Tactics are keys to this category.

                      Manny Pacquiao

                      Power 8
                      Physical attributes 7
                      Hand speed 9
                      Footwork 7
                      Defense 7
                      Durability 8
                      Heart 9
                      Killer instinct 10
                      Endurance 9
                      Ring generalship 8

                      Total points 82

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