Comments Thread For: DiBella Responds To WBC's Threat on Chavez-Martinez

[MrRolltide91]

I'm going to go out on a limb. But, I don't think you know what state commission busted Chavez do you?

It's fine if you don't. You probably not from the U.S. You're probably from a country that has ONE sole commission running the sport there. So I'm going to try and help you understand the difference here. The U.S has 50 different boxing commission states. 50 different, all have 50 different rules, not all 50 states do testing believe it or not. And, the states that do the testing not all of them use the same method.

Again to make this more simplistic. I will answer the question that you couldn't answer. And, believe me there wasn't anything smartass about it. Chavez was tested positive in Nevada.

The NSAC caught him. I think it was back in 08' against Troy Lowry. Since he was busted by Nevada do you know how many times he has fought there since? Go look at boxrec to see how many times he has fought there since being caught. And, then when you get the answer. Get back to me.

it was in 09 and his name was troy rowland

[Roman Moreno]

it was in 09 and his name was troy rowland

I stand corrected. Thank you so much sir . Sometimes my memory fails me.

[MrRolltide91]

I stand corrected. Thank you so much sir . Sometimes my memory fails.

its all good.

i had to google that

[Kagami Taiga]

sorry i missed this whole convo but ppl are actually surprised at serg for requesting testing as if he shouldnt?? i mean its totally obvious what chavez does, he doesnt even really try to hide it.

either way, it is what it is. if it was me, i wouldnt let go of that demand, but yes, the fight wont happen if serg refuses to budge. but i dont believe for a second texas is gonna do any adequate testing for this fight. it isnt gonna happen. thats why chavez fights there.

[punchville]

I'm going to go out on a limb. But, I don't think you know what state commission busted Chavez do you?

It's fine if you don't. You probably not from the U.S. You're probably from a country that has ONE sole commission running the sport there. So I'm going to try and help you understand the difference here. The U.S has 50 different boxing commission states. 50 different, all have 50 different rules, not all 50 states do testing believe it or not. And, the states that do the testing not all of them use the same method.

Again to make this more simplistic. I will answer the question that you couldn't answer. And, believe me there wasn't anything smartass about it. Chavez was tested positive in Nevada.

The NSAC caught him. I think it was back in 08' against Troy Lowry. Since he was busted by Nevada do you know how many times he has fought there since? Go look at boxrec to see how many times he has fought there since being caught. And, then when you get the answer. Get back to me.

anyone who has google knows....im guessing you dont know how to use google?...

[Yogi007]

You can't say he was on the wrong stuff(If he was). Because, 1 we don't know if he was on anything. Since there was NO testing whatsoever at all. And, FWIW that is the standard for Texas. Chavez jr has never been tested in Texas. Where is his next fight? El Paso, Texas. But, back to your question. Lets say for argument sake he was on something OK. We don't know if it was the wrong stuff since we don't know what it was and what it was used for correct?

He was caught with a DWI 3 weeks before the fight. That's not good. But, that is nothing that can make anyone think he was on something. But, if you add this with everything else up. I think anyone with sense can come up that something shady was likey to happen. 2 days before the weigh-in he had 8 pounds left to lose. Just think about the 8 pounds in 2 days, plus the DWI in 3 weeks, then he losses those 8 pounds in 2 days but adds 21 pounds over night. With his stamina going strong in the last round as if it was the first round. And, then add that there was no testing. With his history of being caught using diuretics. Something isn't right there.

I never said that he was on anything nor am I assuming that he was. What I meant by he was on the wrong stuff is that I didn't think his performance in the fight was all that great, so there is nothing there to lead me to believe that he was on anything. As far as going up 20 pounds over night, I have seen smaller fighters go up 18 pounds. Victor Ortiz did in the Floyd fight. If a smaller person can do it, then I am guessing that it maybe a little easier for some bigger person to do it. Yes the 8 pounds sounds like a lot but if they are going up 20 pounds, then I would say that they are probably draining themselves pretty quick. The DWI plays no part in this at all.

Yes I agree that is he isn't getting the basic testing, then he should.

[Roman Moreno]

anyone who has google knows....im guessing you dont know how to use google?...

So we concluded that he was caught in Nevada. And, since being caught hasn't fought there since. Why do you think that is BTW?

Most of his fight, more than half have been in Texas. He has yet to be tested in Texas. If the Martinez-Chavez fight happens in Texas(one of the 3 states that has been mentioned as a possibility) they won't have any testing. Just so I don't lose you, Chavez have been tested zero times here(Texas).

So how can he be caught if he isn't even getting tested? Yes he was caught by Nevada cuz' he was tested. But, he hasn't been tested and won't in Texas. BTW his next fight in June is in Texas also. I wonder why? Could anyone guess why? So knowing this wouldn't this warrant Martinez demand to assure testing happens?

[Roman Moreno]

I never said that he was on anything nor am I assuming that he was. What I meant by he was on the wrong stuff is that I didn't think his performance in the fight was all that great, so there is nothing there to lead me to believe that he was on anything. As far as going up 20 pounds over night, I have seen smaller fighters go up 18 pounds. Victor Ortiz did in the Floyd fight. If a smaller person can do it, then I am guessing that it maybe a little easier for some bigger person to do it. Yes the 8 pounds sounds like a lot but if they are going up 20 pounds, then I would say that they are probably draining themselves pretty quick. The DWI plays no part in this at all.

Yes I agree that is he isn't getting the basic testing, then he should.

Your examples are pretty vague. The DWI could very easily mean he wasn't taking training seriously, especially so close to the fight, Ortiz didn't lose 8 pounds in 2 days, not only that the stamina Chavez had at the end, not getting tested. We can choose to ignore all that.

What do you think diuretic is used for? BTW, what was Chavez caught for? Would diuretic by any chance could help lose 8 pounds in 2 days? I don't want to go out on a limb or anything.

How are you suppose to look when you're using a diuretic to make weight? Do you think just because you take a banned substance that you're suppose to KO and destroy your opponents? Some PED's just help you for get this stamina. Just so you could fight just as hard in the last round as if it was the first. Not necessary to destroy and KO your opponent. How was Chavez stamina in the Rubio fight BTW after losing 8 pounds in 2 days and then gaining 21 pounds.

You said he isn't getting basic testing. But, he should. What is basic testing to you?

[punchville]

So we concluded that he was caught in Nevada. And, since being caught hasn't fought there since. Why do you think that is BTW?

Most of his fight, more than half have been in Texas. He has yet to be tested in Texas. If the Martinez-Chavez fight happens in Texas(one of the 3 states that has been mentioned as a possibility) they won't have any testing. Just so I don't lose you, Chavez have been tested zero times here(Texas).

So how can he be caught if he isn't even getting tested? Yes he was caught by Nevada cuz' he was tested. But, he hasn't been tested and won't in Texas. BTW his next fight in June is in Texas also. I wonder why? Could anyone guess why? So knowing this wouldn't this warrant Martinez demand to assure testing happens?

it was common sense...dont even know why you had to ask...

goo night, im checking out!

[Roman Moreno]

it was common sense...dont even know why you had to ask...

goo night, im checking out!

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