What will Mayweather's excuse be to avoid the Martinez fight?

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  • radioraheem
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    #61
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    Why tell lies, or are you just ignorant to the facts.

    You try putting on 21lbs in 36 hours and see how you feel. If Martinez want to be slow, sluggish, lack stamina and have cramp this is the way to do it.
    The facts are well presented. De La Hoya, rehydrated to weigh-in over 170 lbs on fight night. That's more than 17 lbs at the very least. Victor Ortiz did the same thing, the difference was the the fight was at 147, so his weight was only 164 lbs. Shane Mosley too, did the same damn thing. All three fighters had a significant weight advantage.

    And yet, you think a full-blown Middleweight, won't do the same thing? When he's already done as much for his Middleweight fights, rehydrating 15, 18, and more pounds? Martinez has already been doing this -- this is fact. Do your homework.

    Another thing, quit trying to flip numbers around to make it seem like Pacquaio is 7 lbs lighter than Mayweather. He is not! On fight night, they virtually weigh basically the same! Pacquaio typically comes into the fight around 147/148, and Mayweather does the same thing with his max weight being 150 lbs. Even for the Cotto fight, he's even said already that he will come in around 150, not 154.

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      #62
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      However, Pacquiao, who wanted to face Cotto on June 9th, also at the MGM Grand, was demanding the rematch take place at the welterweight limit of 147.

      Quoted from the link you posted, guess you were wrong. Don't worry it not the first time and it won't be the last time.
      Too bad they were hoping for 148.

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        #63
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        So Floyd is not a tough fight for Martinez just a big money one.

        Quite a surprising view coming from you.
        Actually I think Floyd wins the fight easy. Martinez' talents are maximized at 160 and he needs to fight there and stop picking on the little guys

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          #64
          Originally posted by turbotime
          I think Floyd wins the fight easy. Martinez' talents are maximized at 160 and he needs to fight there and stop picking on the little guys
          Martinez is a 154lbs guy, Floyd at 154lbs , stops with the excuses.

          Who is a tougher fight for Floyd, Martinez or Canelo?

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            #65
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            Martinez is a 154lbs guy, Floyd at 154lbs , stops with the excuses.

            Who is a tougher fight for Floyd, Martinez or Canelo?
            Martinez is a middleweight. He hasn't been at 154 in years.

            Live in the now. Floyd's legacy is already set, Martinez should beat Chavez, GG, Pirog, etc. and seal his.

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              #66
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation
              Spadafora? high risk for Floyd, guess you don't think much of Floyd then.

              Martinez vs Mayweather will do around 1.4m PPV buys much more than the Ortiz fight.

              Guess Floyd don't want $40m and legacy
              Yes, it's high risk since Mayweather has very little to gain from such a fight. But absolutely, everything to lose! And anything can happen in a fight, even Mayweather has said this. Spadafora would have everything to gain, from publicity, to money, and maybe even winning the fight (i.e. a lucky punch).

              If Pacquaio were to be a fool and fight Spadafora too, it is also high-risk with little to no reward. Why? Because again, Spadafora is the only winner here. He has everything to gain, whereas Pacquaio would have everything to lose. Losing to Spadafora would end his career. So why would he take such a fight? Pacquaio is not so foolish, and neither is Mayweather.

              They both have little to gain from taking on Martinez, who is too big for them anyway. Martinez is too big for damn near all the Welterweight fighters. He needs to stick to his weight class or move up!

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                #67
                Originally posted by radioraheem
                The facts are well presented. De La Hoya, rehydrated to weigh-in over 170 lbs on fight night. That's more than 17 lbs at the very least. Victor Ortiz did the same thing, the difference was the the fight was at 147, so his weight was only 164 lbs. Shane Mosley too, did the same damn thing. All three fighters had a significant weight advantage.

                And yet, you think a full-blown Middleweight, won't do the same thing? When he's already done as much for his Middleweight fights, rehydrating 15, 18, and more pounds? Martinez has already been doing this -- this is fact. Do your homework.

                Another thing, quit trying to flip numbers around to make it seem like Pacquaio is 7 lbs lighter than Mayweather. He is not! On fight night, they virtually weigh basically the same! Pacquaio typically comes into the fight around 147/148, and Mayweather does the same thing with his max weight being 150 lbs. Even for the Cotto fight, he's even said already that he will come in around 150, not 154.
                Stop with the lies, present you so called facts with credible links.

                Martinez at 154lbs put around 10lbs and weighed in at 164lbs.

                Floyd's ring weight will be around 156lbs if they fight.

                8lbs if that is too much for Floyd then.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by radioraheem
                  Yes, it's high risk since Mayweather has very little to gain from such a fight. But absolutely, everything to lose! And anything can happen in a fight, even Mayweather has said this. Spadafora would have everything to gain, from publicity, to money, and maybe even winning the fight (i.e. a lucky punch).

                  If Pacquaio were to be a fool and fight Spadafora too, it is also high-risk with little to no reward. Why? Because again, Spadafora is the only winner here. He has everything to gain, whereas Pacquaio would have everything to lose. Losing to Spadafora would end his career. So why would he take such a fight? Pacquaio is not so foolish, and neither is Mayweather.

                  They both have little to gain from taking on Martinez, who is too big for them anyway. Martinez is too big for damn near all the Welterweight fighters. He needs to stick to his weight class or move up!
                  LOL Spadafora lucky punch, you really don't think much of Floyd do you.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by turbotime
                    Martinez is a middleweight. He hasn't been at 154 in years.

                    Live in the now. Floyd's legacy is already set, Martinez should beat Chavez, GG, Pirog, etc. and seal his.
                    Martinez can make 154lbs that is clear, and stop ducking the question.

                    Who is a tougher fight for Floyd? Martinez or Canelo?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by turbotime
                      Martinez is a middleweight. He hasn't been at 154 in years.

                      Live in the now. Floyd's legacy is already set, Martinez should beat Chavez, GG, Pirog, etc. and seal his.
                      Are Chavez, GG and Pirog all tougher fights for Martinez at 160lbs than Floyd is at 154lbs?

                      Try not to duck this time.

                      I could see the Pirog one being so.

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