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  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    Ummm. Floyd fought Diego Corrales BEFORE he fought Jose Luis Castillo. Major fail. Also, I already have a post from you saying that you are down for Pac no matter what and that you are bias in regards to him so if you are not going to give fighters other than him a fair shake then stop talking about fighters you care nothing about and go find a Pac thread. We're talking about Sergio Martinez a guy that Arum blatantly said that Pac won't fight only if Martinez came in as a zombie. Stop hating and making excuses. I can't wait for Manny to retire to get all of these cheer leaders off of this site. Pac ain't fight no one worth it in YEARS. Cotto was his best fight comp wise to date and he had to get him at 145 for Cotto's title and then try to bring Cotto down again in weight. Pac still ain't beat JMM convincing AFTER YEARS and 3 weight classes. Pac is a hyped up fighter PERIOD!




    What did Manny Pacquiao do? Went and tried to make a fight with Cotto at an uncomfortable weight for Cotto and then picked Bradley.
    I think, undefeated BRADLEY, won't be a walk in the Park, for Pac!!!

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    • Originally posted by jbpanama View Post
      I think, undefeated BRADLEY, won't be a walk in the Park, for Pac!!!
      Finally we agree on something.

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      • Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
        Corales was defeated by Castillo and was in the worst shape mentally and physically,,,,WON'T work mang

        Gatti ??? Gatti had more balls than JR will ever have but he was NOT champion when JR fought him, he was a washed up fighter, WON't WORK !

        Hatton was small, a blown up proven can't fight at WW fighter,,,won't work mang

        Zab was a badly defeated leftover from Tz and all ZAB does is accentuate what his heart dictates and that is survive or quit,,, won't work

        ODH,,,,old and washed up , couldn't pull the trigger,,,,and you would think he would have slaughtered ODH but it was the sickest big fight in the history of boxing. I paid good money to watch that. BS,,,won't work mang

        I am totally supprized that you are trying to pull this off using JMM. JMM is the wee little mang , and you using him to define JR ??????? Wow,,,,just won't work thats like Ali claiming Brian London as his defining fight.

        and

        Balto ????????? W O W ! LMAO !!!!!!

        Now the truth is , and the answer to the Question is :

        JR does not have a defining fight !

        JR is a product of HYPE with skills and no balls

        I can't wait for somebody to prove me wrong, I definitely desire the taste of eating crow.

        Whoever you named Pac did greater than JR , easy.

        Remember ODH , he chose to come in at 147,,,,,QUIT on his stool

        Remember Hatton, KO'd in two

        sad boxing has come to this.
        Must be mexican! I don't know to many people better than him, so where does he get credit? I could really do pac the same way! Cotto was damage goods, with no trainer at catch weight who also just won controversaly to clotty!

        Then u got clotty who just came from losing to cotto!

        Oscar, who freddy said him self looked weight drained and if u look at pictures, looks like a cancer patient!

        Marg was damaged goods, who just lost got tko by shane and hadn't fought in over 2yrs!

        A so called blown up Marquez beat him the last fight!

        He fought shane after he got killed by money! When at first didn't want no part of him!

        Hatton was never the same after floyd got through with him! Fired his trainer started using drugs, ect.

        And pac hasn't looked god in his last couple of fights, but all floyd fights look the the same, DOMINANT so miss me with the BULL SH##! U SOUND LIKE A BIASED HATER! LOL

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        • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          Finally we agree on something.
          Just proves U can be Right, on occasion!!!

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          • Originally posted by valentino23 View Post
            Must be mexican! I don't know to many people better than him, so where does he get credit? I could really do pac the same way! Cotto was damage goods, with no trainer at catch weight who also just won controversaly to clotty!

            Then u got clotty who just came from losing to cotto!

            Oscar, who freddy said him self looked weight drained and if u look at pictures, looks like a cancer patient!

            Marg was damaged goods, who just lost got tko by shane and hadn't fought in over 2yrs!

            A so called blown up Marquez beat him the last fight!

            He fought shane after he got killed by money! When at first didn't want no part of him!

            Hatton was never the same after floyd got through with him! Fired his trainer started using drugs, ect.

            And pac hasn't looked god in his last couple of fights, but all floyd fights look the the same, DOMINANT so miss me with the BULL SH##! U SOUND LIKE A BIASED HATER! LOL
            Does El FRAUD, pay U by the word....DUMBO???

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            • Originally posted by jbpanama View Post
              Does El FRAUD, pay U by the word....DUMBO???
              Nope, just not biased! I give pac and floyd respect! I just hate biased people who have so much hate that they discredit all time greats! U just can't deny the master of the sweet science of boxing!

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              • The fight should happen as ledderman said, and it should happen at 160 not at some ****** catchweight. However, I dont see what is so special about MSG other than the people living in NY would be really happy, but floyd has fought exclusively at MGM for the last few years and thats likely where he would want this fight.

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                • Originally posted by jbpanama View Post
                  Just proves U can be Right, on occasion!!!
                  No, just proves that Pac is FINALLY fighting an opponent who is in his prime and not at a catch weight.

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                  • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                    HOw exactly has manny shown his heart? Fighting bigger guys under the same promotional umbrella who are much slower, shot, or defending their title at a catchweight?
                    What a hate to say Manny hasn't shown his heart. Your hate is slowly consuming you dude and has severely affected your mind and your reasoning. Dude there must be a good and valid reasons why weight divisions exist in boxing. There must be a reason why when a fighter failed to get the contracted fight weight a fight could be cancelled or the heavier fighter pays some penalties like monetary and wearing heavier gloves. A guy like Manny who is practically JUST a lightweight fighting/tearing through weight divisions and not only beat fighters 12 to 17 lbs heavier but destroyed them and permanently retired some, and you are saying Manny has not shown any heart? We all have seen all those fights and we also see the kind of punishment Manny has received in return and you say Manny has not shown any heart? Manny as he has said was just lucky to survived Margo's murderous left hook to the liver the same punch that put Cintron down for good and in agonizing pain?

                    Instead of repeatedly bashing Manny for CW fights what about the Manny's severe handicap in facing fighters 12 to 17 lbs heavier? What's the big deal with Coto's fight at CW at 145 when Coto was 146 in Clottey fight? Coto himself said weight was no issue and he was at his best condition. Margo was a carrier WW and the CW at 150 was in fact a gift to Margo. If weight divisions doesnt matter according to you since all of them are slow, then all a fighter need is to have a speed advantage and forget about the weight, then I just wondering why until now no fighters at 135, lots of them faster and better than Manny have not shown any interest in following Manny's lead.One possible reason, they probably don't have the heart.

                    Lastly forget about Manny's lack of heart in facing HOFr's Morales 3x, Barrera 2x, Marquez 3x, beating Ledwaba on two weeks notice, beating Sasakul a living legend in Thailand and Manny only 19 yrs old with nobody in the boxing world giving him any chance to win. What about accepting OLDH fight, a fight everybody in the boxing world said OLDH would murder Manny. You're just a hater. Period.

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                    • Lederman is a a$$ and just as big as a pbf hater than Merchant< 157 are you friggin kidding me? Halfway between 160 and 147 is 153.5.....so why would pbf move up to a weight to suit sergio, pbf is the draw/main person, so therefore sergio should come down to 150 if the fight were to happen, you dont see pacquiao going down to 140 to fight bradley but rather bradley going up to 147 becuz pacquiao calls the shots just like pbf does, lederman is a a$$...

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