Comments Thread For: Lederman: Mayweather Should Fight Martinez, at MSG

[jbpanama]

When has Floyd ever outboxed a southpaw? He outfought and walked them down. Do you think he'd be able to walking down Martinez?

Can't walk him down, if he dosen't sign to fight him...
FRAUD's M.O. is AVOID anyone, that's a Threat; or
haven't some of U CHUMPS noticed???

[jbpanama]

Corales was defeated by Castillo and was in the worst shape mentally and physically,,,,WON'T work mang

Gatti ??? Gatti had more balls than JR will ever have but he was NOT champion when JR fought him, he was a washed up fighter, WON't WORK !

Hatton was small, a blown up proven can't fight at WW fighter,,,won't work mang

Zab was a badly defeated leftover from Tz and all ZAB does is accentuate what his heart dictates and that is survive or quit,,, won't work

ODH,,,,old and washed up , couldn't pull the trigger,,,,and you would think he would have slaughtered ODH but it was the sickest big fight in the history of boxing. I paid good money to watch that. BS,,,won't work mang

I am totally supprized that you are trying to pull this off using JMM. JMM is the wee little mang , and you using him to define JR ??????? Wow,,,,just won't work thats like Ali claiming Brian London as his defining fight.

and

Balto ????????? W O W ! LMAO !!!!!!

Now the truth is , and the answer to the Question is :

JR does not have a defining fight !

JR is a product of HYPE with skills and no balls

I can't wait for somebody to prove me wrong, I definitely desire the taste of eating crow.

Whoever you named Pac did greater than JR , easy.

Remember ODH , he chose to come in at 147,,,,,QUIT on his stool

Remember Hatton, KO'd in two

sad boxing has come to this.

El FRAUDO, is doing his damnest to RUIN BOXING!!!

[jbpanama]

Where do I start?
Corales (undefeated)
Gatti (champion)
Hatton (undefeated & champion)
Yung Zab (champion)
Oscar (healthy at 154) unlike pac
Marquez (champion) them couple of lbs wouldnt have mattered
Baldamir (champion)

Its not like he was fighting #2 & 3 contenders! These were champions some undefeated, so stop hating and give credit when credits due!

U START by facing REALITY....DIMWIT!!!

[jbpanama]

wow !!

Are we in the house of spin ?

Do we need to compare the greatness of the fighters pac fought as opposed to the fighters jr has fought ?

I say pac fought tougher and greater fighters.

Barrera , morales is greater than any that jr fought, without a doubt jr lost that first castillo fight and castillo was good but not near close to barrera and morales. No way.

You evade the question.

Again , in other words

who is the fighter that has defined floyd mayweather jr in the past 8 years that gives him
authority
clout
prestige
power
to claim the throne as the best ?

I do realize that one fighter can't fight them all but that doesn't mean that a fighter has intentionally ducked them as well like gusman.

I can't name one elite prime welterweight that pac has not fought and is ducking.

Without a doubt jr has admitted to ducking pac, indirectly by stating on the costas show, that his main concern is his health and used pac s name in the same sentence plus that he cares only for his family, leaving out the fans.

He also stated when he fought the wee little jmm that he couldn't knock out that he fought him based on a challenge and that he never turns down a challenge.

I say he needs to shut up and go hide in jail or put up and fight the one dimensional little guy that stands no chance to win and fight sergio a man who will take him to the late rounds put his @$$ in the trenches and show who is da mang !!!!

I say jr is scared to go there.

I say jr will quit unless he can't get up from the knock downs from sergio and pac

all of the hoopla from jr over the past several years is not about boxing its about keeping that 0

i wish somebody would prove me wrong.

The only way is for jr to get in the ring and whup both pac and sergio

after all mang,

they are easy fights , easy money so why not ?

Name the fighter who has defined the career of jr, don't make me laugh now, hahahah,,,,

Josie Harris!!!

[jbpanama]

Floyd has already fought at MSG last year against Margarito.

Be careful, your IQ, is Showing!!!

[jbpanama]

If floyd smiled and played the same fake role as SRL, ODH, and Manny, they would be held to the same standard. I like when they are held to the same standard because those are the arae occassions when pac's diehard fans really look pathetic.

FRAUD can't Play that Role, DUMMBO, that takes BALLS!!!

[GRUSTLER]

Corales was defeated by Castillo and was in the worst shape mentally and physically,,,,WON'T work mang.

Ummm. Floyd fought Diego Corrales BEFORE he fought Jose Luis Castillo. Major fail. Also, I already have a post from you saying that you are down for Pac no matter what and that you are bias in regards to him so if you are not going to give fighters other than him a fair shake then stop talking about fighters you care nothing about and go find a Pac thread. We're talking about Sergio Martinez a guy that Arum blatantly said that Pac won't fight only if Martinez came in as a zombie. Stop hating and making excuses. I can't wait for Manny to retire to get all of these cheer leaders off of this site. Pac ain't fight no one worth it in YEARS. Cotto was his best fight comp wise to date and he had to get him at 145 for Cotto's title and then try to bring Cotto down again in weight. Pac still ain't beat JMM convincing AFTER YEARS and 3 weight classes. Pac is a hyped up fighter PERIOD!

Marquez has indicated that there is a rematch clause in the contract for the third matchup, and that he would have to fight Pacquiao a fourth time in the event that he is victorious.

Koncz confirmed it.

"There's no doubt in my mind that Manny's going to win this fight, but let me just put it this way: How unintelligent would it be if we did not include a rematch clause, just in case of some freak incident," said Koncz.

"Yes, there is a rematch clause in there. We have to be protective of Manny just in case some freak things happen in the fight. We have a mandatory rematch clause at the option of Manny."

Koncz referred to a recent fourth-round knockout loss by Victor Ortiz (29-3-2, 22 KOs), who was dethroned as WBC welterweight beltholder by Mayweather last month.

"How many champions have a fight where, for example, you have an ending like the Ortiz fight. Where did his management make a mistake?" asked Koncz.

"They made a mistake against Mayweather by not putting a rematch clause in there. It has nothing to do with any doubt as to whether or not we think Manny's going to win. It's just smart. It's just good business."

Like Koncz, Roach believes that Pacquiao will render that clause a moot point.

"I just can't wait," said Roach. "Manny wants to close the book on Marquez and Nacho."

http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...arquez?start=1

What did Manny Pacquiao do? Went and tried to make a fight with Cotto at an uncomfortable weight for Cotto and then picked Bradley.

[jbpanama]

hmmmmmmmm you don't get it mang.

you can no longer NOT mention Pac when JR's name comes up,,,,You can no longer NOT mention Sergio's name when JR's name comes up !!

The only one that can erase those names is JR !!

Right now he is , has been and fearing that in the future he will continue to DUCK these two threats to his status in the boxing world.

PUNKING OUT is BOY's answer to all Credable CHALLENGERS, or haven't U Noticed???

[jbpanama]

Sergio still won by KO looking sensational or not. He has KO power, speed, movement and skill. Floyd fought Oscar really cautious at 154. I don't see Floyd being strong enough to stop Martinez and Martinez is going to fight back. Just because he had problems with Barker and Macklin don't make him any less of a fighter because it's possible that Barker and Macklin are good fighters as well to some degree but Sergio was just better. That's the thing with boxing today. If a name fighter has trouble with a no name fighter, then all of a sudden the name fighter ain't that good because he had to fight to win. Martinez is producing KD's and KO's in every fight and that says a lot. Do I think Floyd can win? Sure but I also can see Martinez winning as well. People on here know that I am a fan of Mayweather skill set and haven't seen anyway that I could say would give him a problem or beat him until Martinez. You have your opinion and I have mine but fight to me is 50/50.

Hey Gus, do U think El FRAUD will stop AVOIDING the BEST???

[arraamis]

Dudes .... some of you guys cannot be serious with these off-the-wall comments.

Some of you guys are worst than walking tabloids ... you just run with any rumor you can get your hands on dismissing any logic or business sense in the process.

This whole thread is nothing more than a SMFH moment & total