Andre Ward Calling Out Sergio Martinez!! Does Sergio have The Balls Tho?

[KingTito]

There's other fights I'd rather see, but I wouldn't mind it if they fought.

[Queen_Leia]

actually no, like i said before, every individual has a different body. look at chavez jr. he can squeeze down to 160 and weigh like 182 the next night. can brandon rios do that? no, not anymore at least. and andre ward isn't recognized as the p4p no. 1 or no. 2 in the world, let alone an atg like manny and floyd are. they both fought above 147 before, and martinez is saying he can make that weight for them. both fought guys similar to 165 on fight night (mayweather/ortiz and pacquiao/margarito) so what's the problem?

and guess what? pacquiao was 153 a week before the mosley fight. how much was martinez this week before the fight, around 154-157.


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also, andre ward won fought in the olympics at light heavyweight. that probably means he was a bit bigger before and now cuts weight to get to the SMW limit.

chiguy91,

I'm not understanding you here....you tell me why Sergio can fight smaller fighters in Floyd and Manny (because they are p4p, body weight science, etc) but why he can fight Ward who is only 8 pounds north at 168.

I mean you make it sound like Ward weights the size of the Klitchkos on fight night...Martinez only wants to fight FMJ & MP because..

1. The money (no problem with that)

2. He will have every physical advantage over them and thus this will neglect FMJ and MP skillset.

And the reason why people don't want Ward fighting Sergio is because...

1. No money

2. His physical advantage will be neglected because him and Ward will be the same size and Sergio will have to rely on his skillset and we all know....skill for skill, Ward would **** him.



So Sergio lovers (and FMJ hater) want this fight, but not the Ward fight....If Ward says he would go to 160 lbs for Chavez, jr why wouldn't he for Sergio.

[UglyPug]

chiguy91,

I'm not understanding you here....you tell me why Sergio can fight smaller fighters in Floyd and Manny (because they are p4p, body weight science, etc) but why he can fight Ward who is only 8 pounds north at 168.

I mean you make it sound like Ward weights the size of the Klitchkos on fight night...Martinez only wants to fight FMJ & MP because..

1. The money (no problem with that)

2. He will have every physical advantage over them and thus this will neglect FMJ and MP skillset.

And the reason why people don't want Ward fighting Sergio is because...

1. No money

2. His physical advantage will be neglected because him and Ward will be the same size and Sergio will have to rely on his skillset and we all know....skill for skill, Ward would **** him.



So Sergio lovers (and FMJ hater) want this fight, but not the Ward fight....If Ward says he would go to 160 lbs for Chavez, jr why wouldn't he for Sergio.

He's a nuthugger. . . And a fan of fighters, moreso than the sport. . . Who else would NOT want to see Sergio fight SMW's, defend him for not even ENTERTAINING the idea, and support him fighting WW's?

[Queen_Leia]

One fight at 154 is still one more than Martinez has had at 168. Why are you so upset about Martinez returning to 154 (which he can still make easily and was competitive at)? You're upset about Martinez facing a smaller Pac or Floyd but have no problem with him jumping to 168 (when he still weighs in a couple pounds short of MW) to face one of the top 168 pounders, where he'd be the smaller fighter?

Sergio is 37 years old, how safe is it for him to move down like that...it easier to move up. Plus Ward is not saying "move up to 168"...he would move down to 164 (and even 160 like he said he would for Chavez).

Again picking on two guys who are NOT career 154 lbers...no one is concern for Pac or Floyd safety but when it comes to Ward/Martinez....we are now concern for his safety. Sergio last 4 fight was at middleweight, fight a super middleweight who will move down for you.

the Supermiddle weight division was only created a few years ago....not that old.

Again Sergio can stay nice and healthy and stay at 160 for Ward where there will be no physical advantage and it will be a contest of skill vs. skill or he can fight and beat two guys who are not TRUE 154 lbers where his physicality, not skill will win him the fight.

[nj_evoixgsr]

A lot of these posters are missing the face that Pac fight night weight won't be more than 154 and Sergio will go upto 168+. Floyd is bigger and though he is still at a size disadvantage. Not as bad. That's why Floyd vs Sergio is more of a reality.

Most posters are putting on a double standard. Sergio calling out these smaller guys and Ward not being able to call out Sergio is a huge problem considering the weight in the latter is much smaller.

Sergio is p4p #3 and everyone expects #1 and #2 to be able to go through weight classes. So Sergio can and needs to be able to make the Ward fight. I think it would make for an interesting fight! I think Sergio gets more limelight for beating someone like Ward than facing guys like Macklin and the last guy he faced.

Macklin even did pretty good. Just gassed out. If he had enough endurance and kept at his game plan. I saw Sergio losing on the score cards.

[chiguy91]

chiguy91,

I'm not understanding you here....you tell me why Sergio can fight smaller fighters in Floyd and Manny (because they are p4p, body weight science, etc) but why he can fight Ward who is only 8 pounds north at 168.

I mean you make it sound like Ward weights the size of the Klitchkos on fight night...Martinez only wants to fight FMJ & MP because..

1. The money (no problem with that)

2. He will have every physical advantage over them and thus this will neglect FMJ and MP skillset.

And the reason why people don't want Ward fighting Sergio is because...

1. No money

2. His physical advantage will be neglected because him and Ward will be the same size and Sergio will have to rely on his skillset and we all know....skill for skill, Ward would **** him

So Sergio lovers (and FMJ hater) want this fight, but not the Ward fight....If Ward says he would go to 160 lbs for Chavez, jr why wouldn't he for Sergio.

well one, martinez was 154-157 throughout fight week, he can easily make 154 better than adding more weight to try and meet ward up at 164. both pac and may have handled fighters who have weighed around martinez's fight night weight (165) and both held titles at 154. martinez has also. has martinez ever fought above 160? has he ever held a title above 160? it's not the same thing. martinez has never handled fighters who weighed whatever ward has weighed on fight night. chavez jr probably will be but that fight isn't happening. and chavez makes 160 at the weigh-ins, if ward or bute can do it, then let's do it.
and i have never said "i don't want martinez to fight ward". i have always said that they're (team martinez and lou dibella) not interested in it, and it's not the equivalent of pac-may fans saying "well if martinez challenges pac and may, why can't he move up to SMW?". its only 1 weight class up, but it's detrimental. he's a rather small MW who can still go to 154, even 150 if a big fight presents itself. we've never seen martinez as a SMW, but we have seen pac and may as LMWs. and they've won, pretty easily. and here's the thing, they compare those fights to martinez fighting ward/bute. was margarito the no. 1 or no.2 LMW, was de la hoya really that good of a champ when floyd fought him? not like no ward or bute.
if martinez would accept ward's offer, i wouldn't mind. it wouldn't be my first pick if i could choose a martinez fight, but i'd be okay with it. a catchweight of 164 sounds good to me if both camps are down to do the fight.

He's a nuthugger. . . And a fan of fighters, moreso than the sport. . . Who else would NOT want to see Sergio fight SMW's, defend him for not even ENTERTAINING the idea, and support him fighting WW's?

look who's talking? you're the most idiotic poster on this site, man. all you do is pathetically try to bash or troll threads, do you even have a social life? cause judging from the posts i've seen of you, it looks like you take some serious time in hating on fighters and stuff. guys like bombs or whatever make it funny but you're just ******ed man, always being repetitive. you're complete scum on the internet, i can't even imagine how pathetic you are in real life. i honestly won't be reading your posts cause they're a waste of time, so good luck trying to argue or "flame" as you would say, someone else.

[Queen_Leia]

well one, martinez was 154-157 throughout fight week, he can easily make 154 better than adding more weight to try and meet ward up at 164. both pac and may have handled fighters who have weighed around martinez's fight night weight (165) and both held titles at 154. martinez has also. has martinez ever fought above 160? has he ever held a title above 160? it's not the same thing. martinez has never handled fighters who weighed whatever ward has weighed on fight night. chavez jr probably will be but that fight isn't happening. and chavez makes 160 at the weigh-ins, if ward or bute can do it, then let's do it.
and i have never said "i don't want martinez to fight ward". i have always said that they're (team martinez and lou dibella) not interested in it, and it's not the equivalent of pac-may fans saying "well if martinez challenges pac and may, why can't he move up to SMW?". its only 1 weight class up, but it's detrimental. he's a rather small MW who can still go to 154, even 150 if a big fight presents itself. we've never seen martinez as a SMW, but we have seen pac and may as LMWs. and they've won, pretty easily. and here's the thing, they compare those fights to martinez fighting ward/bute. was margarito the no. 1 or no.2 LMW, was de la hoya really that good of a champ when floyd fought him? not like no ward or bute.
if martinez would accept ward's offer, i wouldn't mind. it wouldn't be my first pick if i could choose a martinez fight, but i'd be okay with it. a catchweight of 164 sounds good to me if both camps are down to do the fight.

Ok u want him to fight Manny/Floyd at 154 or Ward at 164....interesting.

[UglyPug]

well one, martinez was 154-157 throughout fight week, he can easily make 154 better than adding more weight to try and meet ward up at 164. both pac and may have handled fighters who have weighed around martinez's fight night weight (165) and both held titles at 154. martinez has also. has martinez ever fought above 160? has he ever held a title above 160? it's not the same thing. martinez has never handled fighters who weighed whatever ward has weighed on fight night. chavez jr probably will be but that fight isn't happening. and chavez makes 160 at the weigh-ins, if ward or bute can do it, then let's do it.
and i have never said "i don't want martinez to fight ward". i have always said that they're (team martinez and lou dibella) not interested in it, and it's not the equivalent of pac-may fans saying "well if martinez challenges pac and may, why can't he move up to SMW?". its only 1 weight class up, but it's detrimental. he's a rather small MW who can still go to 154, even 150 if a big fight presents itself. we've never seen martinez as a SMW, but we have seen pac and may as LMWs. and they've won, pretty easily. and here's the thing, they compare those fights to martinez fighting ward/bute. was margarito the no. 1 or no.2 LMW, was de la hoya really that good of a champ when floyd fought him? not like no ward or bute.
if martinez would accept ward's offer, i wouldn't mind. it wouldn't be my first pick if i could choose a martinez fight, but i'd be okay with it. a catchweight of 164 sounds good to me if both camps are down to do the fight.



look who's talking? you're the most idiotic poster on this site, man. all you do is pathetically try to bash or troll threads, do you even have a social life? cause judging from the posts i've seen of you, it looks like you take some serious time in hating on fighters and stuff. guys like bombs or whatever make it funny but you're just ******ed man, always being repetitive. you're complete scum on the internet, i can't even imagine how pathetic you are in real life. i honestly won't be reading your posts cause they're a waste of time, so good luck trying to argue or "flame" as you would say, someone else.

Bwhahahahaha. . . Pretty much what I've been doing with your posts the whole time. . . Cause as Roger would say, you don't know shyt. . . about boxing!

[Teri]

Sergio vs Williams rematch 30 day weigh in sergio 178 pounds the guy is too big please end thread

[josenoway]

How is moving back to 154 'unsafe?'

For his last couple fights, he's been at least 2 pounds under the MW limit and looked very comfortable. The way you're talking, you make it sound like he'd struggle to make 154 and that couldn't be further from the truth. Martinez didn't move up to 160 because he couldn't make 154. He only moved up because of the opportunity to take Pavlik's MW belts presented itself, after Kelly's staph infection prevented the fights with PWill. For some reason, some people struggle to accept that Martinez is a 154 pounder fighting successfully at 160.

Hell, Martinez offered to cut to 150 for Floyd, and Mayweather didn't seem to have a problem with it, so I don't know why you would.

Sergio is 37 years old, how safe is it for him to move down like that...it easier to move up. Plus Ward is not saying "move up to 168"...he would move down to 164 (and even 160 like he said he would for Chavez).

Again picking on two guys who are NOT career 154 lbers...no one is concern for Pac or Floyd safety but when it comes to Ward/Martinez....we are now concern for his safety. Sergio last 4 fight was at middleweight, fight a super middleweight who will move down for you.

the Supermiddle weight division was only created a few years ago....not that old.

Again Sergio can stay nice and healthy and stay at 160 for Ward where there will be no physical advantage and it will be a contest of skill vs. skill or he can fight and beat two guys who are not TRUE 154 lbers where his physicality, not skill will win him the fight.