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Martinez is 5'9; Margarito is 5'10. Why can't Pac fight Sergio?

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  • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post


    Exactly.

    We all saw his last 2 fights. An we've seen his next 2 fights after that statment.

    But wait wait, if you don't acknowledge that is a good win you must know nothing about Boxing because Margarito is not only heavier....but taller!

    Shot to pieces? Hasn't won a legit fight in 2 years? Who cares!

    He's bigger and taller and obviously that's all that matters.
    Precisely.

    Forget about the fact that Roach admitted to the world that the only reason they're fighting Margarito is because of Marg's last two fights. Let's just focus on all that matters; the height and weight difference.

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    • Originally posted by Fvck LamarSmith View Post
      Martinez is 5'10" and Margarito is 5"11". Oscar is taller than Martinez and just as tall as Margarito, so that alone tells you that it's not the height, but the weight that is holding Manny back from going to 154.

      Manny simply stated that 154 is too high for him, even before the Margarito fight was negotiated and way before anyone ever thought of Pacquiao vs Martinez.

      Guy is consistent in his stance, so I really don't see the problem.
      If you're content with Manny saying "Ow, the shots from Margarito hurt because he's so much bigger", then you completely understand why Pac is behind ATG's like Duran, Mayweather and obviously Robinson who took those shots from opponents (20 lb's heavier and taller) in several different fights.

      As long as you acknowledge that, no harm there.

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      • Originally posted by Ugh! View Post
        boxinggenuis' point? i've already said pacquiao could fight martinez, but it shouldn't be expected to be at 154

        my point is floyd-baldomir can't be compared to pacquiao-margarito, the size(height/weight) disparity is much more

        and plz try to calm down and read, i didn't say you didn't know about boxing, like i said, you've watched tapes(fights), i just doubt you have any real experience in the ring but that was really unnecesarry

        you dont seem to be following that that height+weight > just weight

        i'll say it AGAIN, im not suggesting the margarito win was a great win, im saying it was good, average, but it can't be "pathetic" as you had said when there is such a size disparity
        Like I said before, I understand that the size difference is more vast and size and height >> Just weight but the fact Margarito has to be a good win solely because he's bigger and taller is nonsense and although not as vast, the same logic applies for Mayweather-Baldomir.

        You doubt I have any fighting experience? What else do you know about me? You seemingly know quite a bit it seems.

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        • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          Like I said before, I understand that the size difference is more vast and size and height >> Just weight but the fact Margarito has to be a good win solely because he's bigger and taller is nonsense and although not as vast, the same logic applies for Mayweather-Baldomir.

          You doubt I have any fighting experience? What else do you know about me? You seemingly know quite a bit it seems.
          dont get butt hurt now, i've tried to drop it, it was an unnecessary call as i've said

          and it's not just solely on size, margarito is a better fighter than baldomir
          if you're going to give floyd any sort of credit for baldomir, you have to give more to pacquiao for margarito

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          • Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
            If you're content with Manny saying "Ow, the shots from Margarito hurt because he's so much bigger", then you completely understand why Pac is behind ATG's like Duran, Mayweather and obviously Robinson who took those shots from opponents (20 lb's heavier and taller) in several different fights.

            As long as you acknowledge that, no harm there.
            And which fights were those?

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            • Originally posted by Fvck LamarSmith View Post
              And which fights were those?
              Duran (5'7) - Hearns, Barkley, ect

              Mayweather - DLH (same height, possibly bigger than Marg at 150), Baldo, Ortiz

              Robinson - Lamotta + a few others...

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              • Originally posted by Ugh! View Post
                dont get butt hurt now, i've tried to drop it, it was an unnecessary call as i've said

                and it's not just solely on size, margarito is a better fighter than baldomir
                if you're going to give floyd any sort of credit for baldomir, you have to give more to pacquiao for margarito
                "Butthurt"

                06 Baldomir and 06 Margarito? Margarito is much better, different class.

                06 Baldomir and 2010 Margarito? Hmmm, debatable.

                I don't give Mayweather credit for beating Baldomir just like I don't give Pacquaio for beating a shot to pieces Margarito who hadn't won a legit fight in 2 years.

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                • Originally posted by Fvck LamarSmith View Post
                  And which fights were those?
                  he's exaggerating with the 20lbs

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                  • Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                    Precisely.

                    Forget about the fact that Roach admitted to the world that the only reason they're fighting Margarito is because of Marg's last two fights. Let's just focus on all that matters; the height and weight difference.
                    same reason they fought oscar and shane.

                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    "Butthurt"

                    06 Baldomir and 06 Margarito? Margarito is much better, different class.

                    06 Baldomir and 2010 Margarito? Hmmm, debatable.

                    I don't give Mayweather credit for beating Baldomir just like I don't give Pacquaio for beating a shot to pieces Margarito who hadn't won a legit fight in 2 years.
                    06 baldomir had wins over zab and gatti coming into the mayweather fight. what did margarito have coming into the pacquiao fight, rust? i'd pick baldo over margs in that one, even though both aren't that good. it is what it is.
                    Last edited by chiguy91; 03-18-2012, 06:02 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Ugh! View Post
                      he's exaggerating with the 20lbs
                      DLH possibly weighed in over 20 lbs higher than Mayweather. Ortiz and Baldomir, I might be off by 3 or 4 pounds, respectively.

                      Regarding Duran and Robinson, I'm not exaggerating.

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