SMH @ Freddie. Roach "How about we drug test Floyd every month"

[ModernTalking]

I think it was very ****** for Manny to say such a thing, but even more ****** would be for Floyd to blow off this fight all together just because Pac mentioned that. Floyd is the king of contradiction, yet all of a sudden he wants to hold someone to their word? LOL. Do what's right. Split the revenue and get it on. Is Floyd forgetting that Pac has outsold him in overall ppv's over the span of both their careers? Pac puts more asses in seats and brings in more revenue to LV when he fights. Yet Floyd feels that he doesnt deserve ANY ppv revenue? Haha. That roadblock is worse than pathetic.

Floyd deserve more because he's more popular. You see when Floyd fight his fight ticket come with free room, free buffet, and free limo ride from the airport...the complete package. Can Manny do that...I don't think so. Floyd is the king. Until Manny start offering free room, buffet, and limo ride from the airport Floyd deserve the bigger share.

[Deevel916]

Look man if you can't be honest about who brought uppurse split purse then we can end this debate. I'm not going to rewrite history. I can completely understand why you focus on the times this fight was negotiated after Dec 2009.

At some point, maybe in the pinoy lounge or a private conversation, you need to admit to yourself that manny made a mistake. I get you want the fight and want floyd to give manny what he wants to make this fight happen. But business doesn't work like that.

None of these endless threads and back and forth would happen if 5 years ago floyd took manny's position with ODH. At some point floyd realized I gotta take it or leave it. He took it.

Lying about or overvaluing manny's revenue doesn't add anything to this debate. Sure manny has outsold floyd in his last 3 fights. But that doesn't make him #1. That reasoning is like Invincible, jimmy and freedom saying vitali is undefeated.

Manny waited and waited and waited and finally agreed to testing. Maybe you think thats ok. Bottom line is manny played it his way and it didn't work out. DOn't blame anyone else for that.

You're stuck on what happened in 09. When you fastforward to NOW, let me know. Not even Floyd is stuck on what happened in 09. Why are you? Floyd has moved on to bigger and better roadblocks.

No PPV revenue for Pac! Really? LOL.

[COACH WEBB]

at this point, even if manny didn't say what he said, floyd would have most likely found something ELSE to complain about and stop the negotiations.

Were they actually negotiating though?

[shogunn]

Look man if you can't be honest about who brought uppurse split purse then we can end this debate. I'm not going to rewrite history. I can completely understand why you focus on the times this fight was negotiated after Dec 2009.

At some point, maybe in the pinoy lounge or a private conversation, you need to admit to yourself that manny made a mistake. I get you want the fight and want floyd to give manny what he wants to make this fight happen. But business doesn't work like that.

None of these endless threads and back and forth would happen if 5 years ago floyd took manny's position with ODH. At some point floyd realized I gotta take it or leave it. He took it.

Lying about or overvaluing manny's revenue doesn't add anything to this debate. Sure manny has outsold floyd in his last 3 fights. But that doesn't make him #1. That reasoning is like Invincible, jimmy and freedom saying vitali is undefeated.

Manny waited and waited and waited and finally agreed to testing. Maybe you think thats ok. Bottom line is manny played it his way and it didn't work out. DOn't blame anyone else for that.

Is floyds words devine to you? It seems as though whatever floyd says, is what floyd gets, and there's no other way around it. Do you agree he deserves 100% of the revenue split?

With Manny outselling him the last 3 fights, he has a very clear case for them being equal, but some how floyd deserves 100%? If floyd was a clear #1, he'd put up 2.0 million PPVs per fight, that ISNT the case. ODLH was putting up 1.2 consistently, while floyd at the same time was doing 350k, tops.

How can floyd not be blamed for the latest round of negotiations. He wants 100%, that **** isnt happening. His recent demand demonstrates the lack of effort in finalizing the fight.

[Deevel916]

You can't keep track of your own statements? You called what Manny did as "very ******", go back and read your own post...it doesn't get any clearer than that. And LOL at your answer. How was Floyd "looking for another roadblock"?

I said what Manny did was "very ******" and if Floyd was using that to blow this fight off, then he is even "more ******". Once again, be clear with your questions if you want a clear answer.

[AFighter4U]

Were they actually negotiating though?

well, both manny and floyd said that they actually talked to each other in the phone... on several occasions to get the fight done.

i'd consider that a negotiation.

[COACH WEBB]

I said what Manny did was "very ******" and if Floyd was using that to blow this fight off, then he is even "more ******". Once again, be clear with your questions if you want a clear answer.

I was clear as day, dude. The heck are you talking about? Again, LOL. All I did was respond DIRECTLY to what YOU said. Again, how was Floyd "looking for another roadblock" though? I'm curious.

[COACH WEBB]

well, both manny and floyd said that they actually talked to each other in the phone... on several occasions to get the fight done.

i'd consider that a negotiation.

Floyd and Manny are the LAST two people that could get a fight done together. Which is why they have people (much smarter people) to represent them.

[The Big Dunn]

He isnt asking for the same deal back. He's doing even better. He's saying Full OSDT rather than asking for any cutoff's.

Full OSDT for both fighters with a 50/50 split of revenue > 14day cutoff for Pac with a 50/50 split.

Which deal is better?

You yourself said that Floyd is being greedy and the deal he offered Pac was unfair. So what's the problem? How can you not see that Floyd is the one preventing this fight from happening now? Oh I forgot....You're stuck on what happened in 09.

Nice try dude. you responded to my post about manny rfusing the 1st deal. I'm not stuck anywhere. Manny took a risk. He lost. Now he wanst floyd to agree. floyd is refusing. Manny is getting exactly what he gave.

If you want to blame floyd fine with me. Floyd is responsible for his actions as is manny.

Manny made his decision, why can't you accept that?

[Teri]

Any news on the stadium?