Comments Thread For: R. Mayweather Explains Why Floyd Ranks Behind Robinson

[mrpleaseplease]

roger, u hittin the pipe again? floyd and ray robinson don't belong in the same sentence for any reason at all. floyd couldn't lace rays boots

[pbftxrs316]

for all you little peasants on here bashing roger mayweather, i challenge you to prove him wrong in any boxing discussion---

i bet you little pukes on here would fold to roger in terms of knowledge and history of the sport---noe of you ***s on here can *** with rog in terms of boxing history---none of you--lol

[pbftxrs316]

roger, u hittin the pipe again? floyd and ray robinson don't belong in the same sentence for any reason at all. floyd couldn't lace rays boots

how many robinson fights have you ever saw? how many mayweather jr fights? and don't lie--because i have seen many and i mean many fights from them both and i have knowledge of both of their careers, not just opinions because of what you read online about them-lol

how many have you ever watched from either of them to make such a claim?---

[pbftxrs316]

This question was written to suggest that a fighter is responsible for who is prime or willing to fight them at any given time.

The premise alone is weak.

Floyd Mayweather fought the #1, #2 and #3 in every division he's competed in EXCEPT ONE: He didn't get a chance to fight Kostya Tszyu because Tszyu wanted a 60/40 split with Floyd taking the 40% .. killing the fight before it ever got started.

You can try to phrase your questions or frame Floyd's career any way you want to. That doesn't change anything.

Floyd had tried to fight Mosley when Mosley was king of the LWs. Mosley declined. Floyd has been calling out DLH for YEARS. DLH was willing to move down for Pacquiao, but he DAMN SURE wasn't willing to move down for Mayweather all those years before!

Floyd has always been willing to fight the best, and he has. Many didn't want any part of him as they knew it was almost an automatic L on their record.

You might have forgotten. Real fans haven't.

Even now Pacquiao is stalling a match that could have been made YEARS ago, but the only way fans feel that they can help Manny not look like a pusssy is to claim that Floyd is holding up the fight.

The embarrassing part is that no one believes that Manny can beat Floyd after what JMM did to him. The odds will reflect that no one believes that Manny has more than a puncher's chance.

But paqtards, being what they are, wage a campaign to hide Pacquiao's cowardice and complacency as Arum's slave.

Then they say that he's being avoided because no one is willing to chase him! Manny simply isn't worth chasing. He's coming to the table with weaker demanding power and he knows it.

This is just another attempt to use "names" in place of "rank" because other fighters simply don't have the resume to be ATGs. So they try to hack their way in by counting names and not their rank or what condition the opponents were in at fight time.

thank you---it's so easy for these people to make their little opinions with actually no knowledge of the sport---also, kostsa fought on showtime and floyd on hbo--the fight was always hard to make---and kosta never really wanted to fight floyd imo--which is why he fought hatton instead--hatton was th ering magazine champion after he beat kosta---he thought hatton was a sure win---but he had to know floyd was the best in the division, but it just so happened that hatton was in the division longer than floyd--he was always at 140 and he had a bigger following than floyd especially in manchester--so he wanted to rub it in floyd's face by fighting in ricky's hometown, the thing floyd always wanted to do---he spit in floyd's face by doing this and it backfired on kosta-lol

and floyd beat the tar out of gatti and got the gold, while kosta was handled by ricky, who in turn, wanted no part of floyd himself--no parts---winky thought floyd was joking when he called him out due to the weight--floyd was not joking--shane never wanted to fight floyd until after floyd moved up in weight and looked slower in the baldomir fight---the same with oscar---floyd was at his peak at 147 when he fought tata baldomir and oscar wanted to take advantage of that--in terms of size--so he moved floyd up even more-lol--and it backfired on him too?lol--just like it did with manny---

these guys thought they were so ***ing slick and they lost to him---good riddens--lol

[hugh grant]

Yes, he ranks behind, SRR, as well as behind Pac, SRL, Ali, not to mention Duran and well you can fill in the blanks.

[pbftxrs316]

hugh grant is nothing more than tool on this forum--when will people finally get this--he's a tool for boxingscene--nothing special about his posts and threads at all---hello hugh--lol

[BennyST]

we cant avoid not giving the titles some importance cause its one way to compare otherwise how can we compare,theres always gonna be reasons or excuses...like back then there were fewer weight divisions but there were also fewer boxer then right?they got more fights back in the days but now i think boxers are more well trained than before...blah,blah,blah...and if its so easy to win multiple titles in as many weight division today why there are only few who have done it??

Errrr, most definitely not. The registered pro fighters is a miniscule amount today, compared to what it was 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago. Tiny.

There were literally over ten times the amount of trainers, gyms and nearly that amount of fighters back in the 40, 50, 60s.

It's been doubly watered down by less fighters, more weight divisions and many, many more titles.

As for why so few people have multiple titles, back when it meant something hardly anyone had multiple titles. Now, it's becoming a normal, common thing. It's also more to do with weight gain from the day before weigh ins today.

[BennyST]

I'm advanced in age 2 have seen SRR many times, & he never ducked Burley, the fight was never seriously considerd, but should've been would've been great...ONLY 1 I know SRR didn't box, 4 what ever reason was Fritzie Zivic...all these "boxers" today couldn't have cleaned SRR's shoes, ie: FM, Pac, Leonard, duran, Khan...remember SRR never had catchwts and jr divisions...

Mate, clearly you are also advanced in dementia. If you think Duran fights today, you're either ****ing ******, or slipping into senility. Unless of course today means fighting in the 60's and 70's, 40 or 50 years ago now, to you?

Either way, Duran and Leonard rate up with any fighter, ever, full stop. Hence the reason they are near consensus top 10 fighters.

[BennyST]

Mayweather and Robinson are not in the same league! Robinson fought everybody, never ducked anyone, never made any crazy demands or excuses, he just wanted to be the best. Mayweather does not pick out the best, he hand picks his fights to make sure he wins. You saw his interview last week, it's about self preservation, not getting beat is more important to Floyd than fighting the best. That's why he didn't face Cotto before he was beaten. That's why he didn't face Margarito, Pacquaio, Mosley (until he was shot), the list goes on.

Sugar Ray Robinson is a true legend of the sport and honourable in every way. Floyd has nothing on him and would be lucky to make the top 20 of all time great boxers. Not a bad position, but nowhere near the greatest.

You should do a little more research before talking mate. He made lots of crazy demands. He was a true prima donna of the boxing world back then. Doesn't take away from his accomplishments though.

[sense]

all-time coward is what chimp roger mean...

robinson never ducked a fighter...

Sugar Ray Robinson ducked Charley Burley!!!!!!