What happened to the Victor Ortiz that fought Berto?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

well placed is a moot point. the point is if you don't see it coming it's going to hurt more. do you disagree with this? do you think ortiz saw the right hand coming or not?

according to your logic, ken norton only took minimal punishment from cooney when he was out cold on the ropes. he was about as relaxed as you can be since he was unconscious.

He doesn't get it, there's no point in trying to explain it.

[BoxerDood]

Victor Ortiz suffers from Zab Judah syndrome!

This right here explains it all.

[intoccabile]

Mayorga takes a punch pretty good when he's telling the guy to hit him... seeing it coming.

Then gets knocked out while fighting, when it's thrown at a time he doesn't expect it.

End of discussion.

[Hallaqsillaq]

I wish a prime Ali was in the HW division now

he will probably knock Kobe the **** out for not marrying a black women

Blue birds with Blue Birds kobe you uncle tom

That's ridiculous lol!

I'd marry any type of girl as long as she was hot and beautiful, what kind of fool limits his possibilities?