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  • #41
    Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil View Post
    Mayweather never said Ali shouldntve fought Frazier.....when did he say this?
    he didnt say it like it is but he said

    floyd :look at ali he fought frazier coz people want him to, ali should have thought of his health not what people wants

    something like that

    self preservation baby

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post




      It is fact that what you're stating as "fact" is an opinion.
      Nope its a fact. A true champion wouldnt even consider fighting marg or mosley at the time pac did. Coming off loses and a draw? Shot for the stars manny.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by PRPOWERPUNCHES View Post
        Are you serious Manfredy, Judah? They were past there prime or not in there
        natural weight class and hold on, you "swear' We the fans just started watching boxing in 08 or 09?

        PRPP
        Judah wasn't in his prime in 2006??? Judah fought at both 140 and 147, how is that not a natural weight class for him??? And Manfredy wasn't prime when Floyd beat him???? He was 24 years old, hadn't lost in 4-5 years, and had just beaten a prime Arturo Gatti.

        Yes, you probably starting watching in 2007 when Cotto beat Mosley or something though........

        Most of the people you see on this site can't even comprehend the fact that after Floyd whupped Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy was the #1 SFW challenger in the world at the time, and had just beaten Aturo Gatti. Most people on here probably didn't even watch boxing in 1998, or were little kids back then.
        Last edited by 4Corners; 03-12-2012, 01:40 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Jordank View Post
          Nope its a fact. A true champion wouldnt even consider fighting marg or mosley at the time pac did. Coming off loses and a draw? Shot for the stars manny.
          Arum said he couldn’t put Pacquiao back in the ring by May 5th to fight Mayweather because Pacquiao’s cut from November might not be properly healed by then. On May 5th, it will have been six months since Pacquiao’s fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, which is plenty of time for the cut to heal.

          Arum also made the excuse that he can’t put Pacquiao in with Mayweather on May 5th because he wants to have a bigger arena in Vegas put together and that can’t happen by May 5th.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil View Post
            so he fought the best @130? 135? 147 & 154? really?

            @130=washed up morales 3 times (losing once), a washed up Barrera?

            @135= David Diaz?

            @147= Cotto at a catchweight? Cotto wasnt ranked #1, Clottey wasn't ranked #1

            @154= Margarito at a catchweight after Margarito was suspend for loading his gloves?

            so these fighters I just mentioned were ranked #1 when Pac fought them?
            JMM was ranked at worse #2 behind Pac. Cotto was ranked #1. Because, some saw Shane as the lineal champion. Cotto being rank the #1 in that throne.

            However, all this is still opinions not facts. You said "FACT" that only fact is that your fact is an opinion. You can get 10 different rankings from 10 different sources, all will be different because of a difference of an opinion. Because, rankings are not facts either.

            I remember not too long ago Dan Rafael didn't have Anselmo Moreno in the top 5 at 118. When arguably Moreno was and has been the best bantamweight IMO. So this is like saying it is a fact that Moreno isn't best at 118(going by Dan/ESPN rankings)

            The Ring has Vanes Martirosyan rank #3 at 154. Using your logic it is a fact Vanes is top 3 at 154. Do you believe that? They have Cotto rank #1 why? Because, he was able to beat 2 shot to pieces fighter who weren't rank by any source. And, a one legged feather fisted fighter? If Floyd was to beat him are you going to make the argument that Floyd beat the best JMW out there? That's fine if you do but just know that is an opinion not a fact.

            But, yea divisional ranking>>>P4P ranking. At least there is, should be a body of work in divisional ranking. While P4P is just make believe.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              Shane was P4P #3 when Mayweather fought him. Not #9.
              What the hell? Please say that was a joke? Who had him number #3?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Jordank View Post
                Nope its a fact. A true champion wouldnt even consider fighting marg or mosley at the time pac did. Coming off loses and a draw? Shot for the stars manny.
                Learn the difference between fact and opinion please. Thank you.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
                  Learn the difference between fact and opinion please. Thank you.
                  answer my post **** thug!! ....did Pac fight the best @130,135,147 or 154?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil View Post
                    Arum said he couldn’t put Pacquiao back in the ring by May 5th to fight Mayweather because Pacquiao’s cut from November might not be properly healed by then. On May 5th, it will have been six months since Pacquiao’s fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, which is plenty of time for the cut to heal.

                    Arum also made the excuse that he can’t put Pacquiao in with Mayweather on May 5th because he wants to have a bigger arena in Vegas put together and that can’t happen by May 5th.

                    But then al people want to hear is "Floyd didn't agree to 50/50", and they completely forget everything else. Both are to blame for the fight not happening. But, people need to remember that Arum himself even said that the date would still be a problem regardless if Floyd agreed to a 50-50 split.

                    Pac is fighting a really good fight in Bradley next. But, it is his first really legit fight since Cotto, his best fight since Marquez in 08', and his first absolute "prime" opponent since Jorge Solis.

                    I find it funny that people dog Floyd for not fighting Margarito and Tszyu, but then have NOTHING to say when you bring up Pac not fighting Raheem or Guzman. Some fights don't happen, oh well. People need to live with it and move on, regardless if we like it or not. Broner-Gamboa will probably NEVER happen either.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil View Post
                      answer my post **** thug!! ....did Pac fight the best @130,135,147 or 154?
                      "**** thug"? No, you must have me confused with a Mayweather fan.

                      Did I not answer your question in post 45?

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