Bigger fraud? Chavez Jr or Guzman?

[Biolink]

Guzman used to be aight. Still is a good fighter, but his lack of discipline prevented him form doing anything.

Chavez Jr OTOH is just a flat out fraud

[Doctor_Tenma]

To what regard is Guzman held to be considered a fraud?

[ИATAS]

Guzman isn't a fraud he's just had many problems with his weight. He's a giant fat man trapped in a tiny body.

[Einstien]

What is fraudulent about Chavez?

Almost 50 fights with maybe 2- 3 decent named fighters on his resume. DECENT.

Keep in mind Funeka actually did cheat in that fight by using a banned substance. How else can a 6'2 fighter make 135?

This is what Funeka tested positive for.....Hardly a PED and no real advantage especially against a fighter that supposedly has "great skill". Funeka is 6'1" and he beat your boy legit...handle it.
Hydrochlorothiazide, a 'water pill,' is used to treat high blood pressure and fluid retention caused by various conditions, including heart disease. It causes the kidneys to get rid of unneeded water and salt from the body into the urine.

To what regard is Guzman held to be considered a fraud?

Fraud=deceive

He has skills but his "fans" or countrymen build him up to be special. Special can only be proved against the elite. He hasn't proved jack. You are deceived if you believe this guy is special.

For example: I train in a gym and can throw all the punches with some decent defense. Average bum in the street I will make look ****** and I will look superior, But I step in with a golden gloves or Pro...then I will look ******.

[DoktorSleepless]

This is what Funeka tested positive for.....Hardly a PED and no real advantage especially against a fighter that supposedly has "great skill". Funeka is 6'1" and he beat your boy legit...handle it.
Hydrochlorothiazide, a 'water pill,' is used to treat high blood pressure and fluid retention caused by various conditions, including heart disease. It causes the kidneys to get rid of unneeded water and salt from the body into the urine.

Hydrochlorothiazide is used to mask other performance enhancing drugs.

[ИATAS]

Hydrochlorothiazide is used to mask other performance enhancing drugs.

Unfortunately Einstein doesn't live up to his user's name.

[The Gambler1981]

Unfortunately Einstein doesn't live up to his user's name.

You don't have to be Einstein to watch Guzman fight and realize that guy has something.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Almost 50 fights with maybe 2- 3 decent named fighters on his resume. DECENT.
This is what Funeka tested positive for.....Hardly a PED and no real advantage especially against a fighter that supposedly has "great skill". Funeka is 6'1" and he beat your boy legit...handle it.
Hydrochlorothiazide, a 'water pill,' is used to treat high blood pressure and fluid retention caused by various conditions, including heart disease. It causes the kidneys to get rid of unneeded water and salt from the body into the urine.


Fraud=deceive

He has skills but his "fans" or countrymen build him up to be special. Special can only be proved against the elite. He hasn't proved jack. You are deceived if you believe this guy is special.

For example: I train in a gym and can throw all the punches with some decent defense. Average bum in the street I will make look ****** and I will look superior, But I step in with a golden gloves or Pro...then I will look ******.

Answer the question though, to what regard is he held to be considered a fraud? Hardly anyone here mentions him, he doesn't have many fans, he's pretty much at the tail end of his career and working his way into a title shot, how is he a fraud? It's not like they awarded him a title and is getting shoved down our throats like some fighters.

[Neglect]

Guzman for sure. Who the **** has he fought? Chavez has had 3 respectable fights in a row.

[Einstien]

Answer the question though, to what regard is he held to be considered a fraud? Hardly anyone here mentions him, he doesn't have many fans, he's pretty much at the tail end of his career and working his way into a title shot, how is he a fraud? It's not like they awarded him a title and is getting shoved down our throats like some fighters.

maybe you should read what I posted slower.