Bigger fraud? Chavez Jr or Guzman?

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  • Einstien
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    #1

    Bigger fraud? Chavez Jr or Guzman?

    Who is the bigger fraud?

    I dont want to hear, "Wasted", "Would of", "Could of", "so much talent" etc.

    We have two unbeaten records that to me meaning absolutely nothing.

    So what do you think?
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  • Russian Crushin
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    For me weighing over by 9 pounds against Funeka is worse then anything Chavez did, not to mention the continuos problem of coming in over weight

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #3
      I don't know how you watch Guzman and think wow this guy can't fight, if a guy is a fraud that means they aren't as good as advertised. Sure he wasted a lot of talent and has shown a temendous lack of discipline, but dude still is a qualtiy fighter.

      I could see how one could watch JCC Jr. and think hrmmm this guy isn't what I am being sold.

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      • KnockUTheFukOut
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        #4
        how does weight issues make you "A FRAUD"?

        Of course it is Chavez Jr. if he wasn't the son of a Legend nobody would give a **** about Chavez Jr because in the ring he is really not that good, Guzman on the other hand actually has excellent BOXING SKILLS

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          #5
          sanchez coming off of a draw with pacquiao

          jorge barrios

          soto

          two division world champ?

          guzman is the far superior fighter and has the better resume at this stage.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            For me weighing over by 9 pounds against Funeka is worse then anything Chavez did, not to mention the continuos problem of coming in over weight
            I agree, neither have me sold but Guzman has buried himself. even if Chavez Jr isnt so great.

            He has a name and can sell. I even see other boxers willing to fight him just to say the beat Chavez Jr THE NAME.

            Who the hell cares if a boxer with a name beats Guzman? Really?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Russian Crushin
              For me weighing over by 9 pounds against Funeka is worse then anything Chavez did, not to mention the continuos problem of coming in over weight


              ridiculous ?
              yes. unprofessional? yes

              fraudulent?

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                #8
                Alot of people like to play it down but weighing over is cheating.

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                • Einstien
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut
                  how does weight issues make you "A FRAUD"?

                  Of course it is Chavez Jr. if he wasn't the son of a Legend nobody would give a **** about Chavez Jr because in the ring he is really not that good, Guzman on the other hand actually has excellent BOXING SKILLS
                  I give it to you that Guzman has some skills but HONESTLY No one really knows how "skillful" Any fighter is with the competition he has faced. 90% in DR.

                  I mean we see these fighters come from Columbia or Nicaragua that are like 32 and 0 with 30 KOs Some showboating as they win against "no names" then They come to America and start to lose when they face a name. Please dont tell me about Soto or Barrios either. Im tired of that too.

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                  • Toney Loc
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                    #10
                    Nothing fraudulent about Guzman. Undisciplined sure, but a fraud?

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