Did David Haye earn your respect back?

[nomadman]

Did David Haye earn my respect back?

Well, since I'm not ten years old or have the mentality of one then no.

Respect as a boxer is gained in the ring. You fight hard, you wear your heart on your sleeve, you're gracious in defeat, humble in winning, you're respectful of your opponent and your fans. This is obvious to any true boxing fan. What's also obvious is that Haye has done none of these things, and what's worse has almost flaunted his contempt for these qualities these last few years.

Now arrogance in and of itself isn't bad provided it's backed up. Trashtalking in and of itself is also not bad, provided you back it up. Even fighting like Haye did when he was still being paid to do it isn't a crime, provided you don't big yourself up and dupe your fans out of their cash like any two-bit conman. Haye provided us with one of the most anti-climatic big fights of recent years, succeeded in destroying PPV in this country and turning hordes of fans and potential fans away from the sport and then dragged the sport into dispute and ridicule all for the purpose of bigging his retirement ass up for an unearned payday at a press conference that had nothing to even do with him in the first place.

And you're expecting me to not only forgive him, but respect him for it?

Fuck. Right. Off.

I don't give a crap if you think it was "self defence" or "standing up to the bully" or any of that schoolyard nonsense, what he did last Saturday was just one more cherry on the big old cake of lies and unfulfilled promises that is David Haye's career. He's an utter disgrace to the sport and to this country, and I hope the irritating sod stays hiding under his Las Vegas party rock.








And Holmes's fight with Berbick was way more entertaining.

[jimmy1569]

I have for massive respect for Chisora, slapping Vitali knowing full well that this will bring out the best Vitali. Come fight night being the aggressor, giving Vitali his toughest fight in years.

You're once again.. a bonafide moron.. You have Chisora's respect but not Haye's.. Chisora is a coward.. tries to act tough but doesn't back it up. That slap was the most cowardly thing i've ever seen in boxing. At least Haye was sticking up for himself when he sensed danger & had no alternative. DOMB A$$$ Chisora got what was coming to him. He's the one who went over to David thinking Haye was a bonafide poosy & would cite his toe again.. He's the one who stepped to Haye like an idiot not knowing that Haye had an actual weapon in his hand.. Then his trainer.. sees that Chisora got knocked out.. starts swinging at David.. ONE PUNCH FROM hAYE & this dude would be laid out cold.. so he's just as domass as his fighter.

David Haye laid down the law.. took Chisora & his crew to school & that is to be commended... he was acting in self defense because of threats by Chisora.. anything you do in self defense is justified.. he didn't wait for Derek to hit him as Chisora had his microphone right on Haye's face.... so in reality Chisora instigated everything about that brawl... doesn't matter who ignited there confrontation as i felt they're both equally to blame for riling up the other & talking shet... only difference is that CHISORA made it into a physical confrontation.. rather than just verbal abuse.. just like he had earlier with Vitali & Wlad.

[jimmy1569]

Did David Haye earn my respect back?

Well, since I'm not ten years old or have the mentality of one then no.

Respect as a boxer is gained in the ring. You fight hard, you wear your heart on your sleeve, you're gracious in defeat, humble in winning, you're respectful of your opponent and your fans. This is obvious to any true boxing fan. What's also obvious is that Haye has done none of these things, and what's worse has almost flaunted his contempt for these qualities these last few years.

Now arrogance in and of itself isn't bad provided it's backed up. Trashtalking in and of itself is also not bad, provided you back it up. Even fighting like Haye did when he was still being paid to do it isn't a crime, provided you don't big yourself up and dupe your fans out of their cash like any two-bit conman. Haye provided us with one of the most anti-climatic big fights of recent years, succeeded in destroying PPV in this country and turning hordes of fans and potential fans away from the sport and then dragged the sport into dispute and ridicule all for the purpose of bigging his retirement ass up for an unearned payday at a press conference that had nothing to even do with him in the first place.

And you're expecting me to not only forgive him, but respect him for it?

Fuck. Right. Off.

I don't give a crap if you think it was "self defence" or "standing up to the bully" or any of that schoolyard nonsense, what he did last Saturday was just one more cherry on the big old cake of lies and unfulfilled promises that is David Haye's career. He's an utter disgrace to the sport and to this country, and I hope the irritating sod stays hiding under his Las Vegas party rock.








And Holmes's fight with Berbick was way more entertaining.

Pretty good post about Haye's past exploits... in fact spot on.... & yes he was being self serving by showing up at the press conference by showing up everyone that was involved... but the fact is... he was there at a distance.. he was ONLY being verbal. Chisora was chomping at the bit.. threatening to slap him & stating this on several prior interviews (at least he gave Haye a heads up) Vitali got no such thing. He was the one looking for every excuse in the book to go there.. Chisura cited haye's toe & Haye retailiated that Derek has lost his last 3 fights.




It was Derek who couldn't control himself & escalated the situation... to him it was a goldmine that Haye was there as he'd have another excuse to start more mayhem & confrontation... in a span of les than 24 hrs.. he tried to physically intimidate the last 3 heavyweight champions of the world in succession..... i guess it was 3 strikes & you're out.... Haye had one thing the brother's didn't have & that was a headsup & time to prepare a defense instead of being caught completely off guard & doing it at the opportune times right before a lucrative bout that had the potential to be cancelled if the brother's had retaliated.... This is all actions of a coward..


Sure we can give him praise for coming at Vitali hard for 12 rds... but it's NOT like he was avoiding punches while doing so & he benefitted from a jabless Vitali for the majority of the bout... so his performance while good.. still was a losing gameplan but the ONLY gameplan he was capable of carrying out.... as for David... what he did in the past is to be completely disrespected but what he did at the end of the press conference is tsand up for himself when someone & MOST everybody in the house was questioning his manhood.. Vitali gave him a high five because he finally saw Haye as a real man instead of a puppet salesman & the fact he did something that Vitali didn't allow himself to do because of his reputation & millions that look up to him.. yes he's going to clap & yes he asked David if he knocked chisora out & even said... you knocked him on his A$$$$.

[jimmy1569]

Vitali actually felt conned & even betrayed by Chisora after all that good will they had... they were shaking each other's hands out of respect at all the prefight conferences.. so waht Chisora did out of left field after Vitali gave him an opportunity after his failed 2 bouts vs Wlad to fight him is a mark that Derek is not all there & mentally unstable.. He's twofaced & needs help. This was the first time in boxing where i'd seen someone physically attack another boxer when there was no imminent prior altercation to warrant it.

[ghost deini]

both talk a lot of junk and do some ****** publicity stunts.


difference is chisora "tried to win" in his loss against vitali.

while haye "tried not to get koed" in his loss against wlad.

yeah but vitali's performance was one of his weakest perhaps the worst ive seen him haye may have got to him if he was fighting vitali instead of wlad

[jimmy1569]

Chisora goes to the school where violence is the first resort & NOT the last. He can't control his impulses to physically react. If you notice... everyone was citing him as a trash talker like Haye but i didn't think he was that much of a trash talker.. even thought he was soft spoken at times & unsure of himself.. he reacts poorly to any type of confrontation or provocation because he simply can't control his emotions & impulses. Haye can.. Chisora can't & that is the difference between both of these guys.

[J-Smooth]

The man went straight ape **** on the"bully" i loved every second of it.left hook,straight right,headlock,3 elbows tot he head.then bust Chisora's trainer up....then even busts his own trainer up....then at the end

hell yes!!!



Aint no stoping us now!!!!

[IronDanHamza]

No.

He's a delusional moron who should stay retired.

[John Barron]

[CasualBoxingFan]

The man went straight ape **** on the"bully" i loved every second of it.left hook,straight right,headlock,3 elbows tot he head.then bust Chisora's trainer up....then even busts his own trainer up....then at the end

Hey what u ganna do when all the stars line up and u got a healthy toe?
... ur gonna *** sum foolz up!