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  • THE REED
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    #31
    Originally posted by JAB5239
    That makes a lot of sense. Why fix something now when you can just wait until its to late. [/COLOR][/FONT]
    LOL @ your petty ranting.

    Guy is 40 years old, had an injured shoulder and won 10 out of 12 rounds, in a pretty good fight.. and all you can do is pick it apart.

    Advice I'd give him?

    What I said was, WHY ADJUST when you're winning damn near every round.

    Did he get hurt? Did he get stunned? Was he out on his feet? Chisora had a few moments, and that was it... and all you can do is talk about how he didn't adjust?

    And wait until it's too late? What are we talking about some amateur prospect or FNF up and comer? We're talking about a 40 year old experienced Vet. What he's been doing so far has been working great for him.

    Good for Vitali... respect to him and for his performance. It's impressive to perform the way he did through injuries and age.

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    • MonsieurGeorges
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      #32
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      There was nothing "comfortable" or "dominant" about Vitali's performance against Chisora.
      Vitali did fine, thats what a 40 year old "out-fighter" should look like against a body puncher. Chisora was getting close with his big shots, Vitali did the right thing by staying composed and not abandoning what was working for him, which were his punches from range, in-and-out footwork and smart clinching. Vitali shouldn't go into another "mode" while his strategy is working. And yes he did get hit some, its never a good thing but on a side note he came out of it again looking like the more "durable" Klitschko brother

      It was a good fight from them both, no need to criticize anything that happened in the ring. Outside of the ring, there is room for criticism

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      • Dirk Diggler UK
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        #33
        LOL@ the age and injury excuses.

        He was supposed to destroy Del Boy and teach him a lesson.

        Now its "poor Vitali, cut the ol man some slack".

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        • JAB5239
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          #34
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          LOL @ your petty ranting.

          What have I said that's petty, and just how have I been ranting, son?


          Guy is 40 years old, had an injured shoulder and won 10 out of 12 rounds, in a pretty good fight.. and all you can do is pick it apart.

          I haven't picked it apart at all, I've pointed out a simple fact. If it wasn't a fact you would have provided me with proof of him adjusting the 2 other times he's been pressed.

          Oh, and I had the fight 8-4 Vitaly.

          Advice I'd give him?

          What I said was, WHY ADJUST when you're winning damn near every round.

          Yes, but this is against a 15-2 fighter! If you CAN'T adjust against him, how are you going to adjust against a more skilled and experienced fighter if the problem presents itself?


          Did he get hurt? Did he get stunned? Was he out on his feet? Chisora had a few moments, and that was it... and all you can do is talk about how he didn't adjust?
          Hey, Im so sorry for for pointing something out that had to do with the fight. I thought this was a boxing forum?

          And wait until it's too late? What are we talking about some amateur prospect or FNF up and comer? We're talking about a 40 year old experienced Vet. What he's been doing so far has been working great for him.
          Yep it has. Its been working great against the sorry level of comp he's faced. But you can see his inability to adjust would be a major problem against an experienced fighter who was in shape and actually knew how to fight.

          Good for Vitali... respect to him and for his performance. It's impressive to perform the way he did through injuries and age.
          It is, but that doesn't make him beyond reproach.

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            #35
            You don't need to adjust if you're winning damn near every round.

            What he was doing was working, and quite well.

            Sure Chisora had some moments, and I applaud him for coming to actually fight, and let his hands go unlike a lot of the other HW's, but even with that.. Vitali still kept his cool and did everything he needed to do to win the fight, and win comfortably.

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              #36
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              You don't need to adjust if you're winning damn near every round.

              What he was doing was working, and quite well.

              Sure Chisora had some moments, and I applaud him for coming to actually fight, and let his hands go unlike a lot of the other HW's, but even with that.. Vitali still kept his cool and did everything he needed to do to win the fight, and win comfortably.
              He looked crap though. I don't see why people have to make excuses for a poor performance or act like it wasn't one. It was sub-standard. He was finally presented with a guy that actually moved his head and came to fight and he struggled.

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                #37
                Originally posted by JAB5239

                Than again Chisora didn't stand right in front of him and closed the distance on him as well as backing him up. Vitaly is a great fighter, but he struggles so much more when he isn't allowed to dictate the fight. Seems like he has no plan B in those situations.
                it's not just pressure, it's about throwing punches, vitali like wald is not a counterpuncher, thus when you are punching, he is in defense mode(usually hands straightened out and leaning back), wlad is a better grappler though
                Last edited by SplitSecond; 02-20-2012, 04:49 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  He looked crap though. I don't see why people have to make excuses for a poor performance or act like it wasn't one. It was sub-standard. He was finally presented with a guy that actually moved his head and came to fight and he struggled.
                  Not in my opinion, I thought he looked pretty decent all things considered and was in a fairly entertaining fight I enjoyed watching, which is more than I can say for a lot of the HW title fights I've seen in years.

                  Age isn't excuse.. it's a damn good reason. 40 years old is 40 years old... Chisora came to fight and I thank him for that because it's about damn time.

                  But Vit came to fight too.. he let his hands go, he went back and forth with the guy... all things considered I think he looked good, against like you said.. someone who actually came to fight.

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                  • LoStranger
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ki11a Cam
                    I remember after Adamek got beat, a lot of people were saying that Adameks performance was better than Haye's.....going on about how he went out on his shield, unlike Haye...but I remeber saying at the time his performance was absolutely terrible and no better than Haye......

                    Now a guy who only has 15 fights puts up a better performance than Adamek....who lets not forget, WAS FIGHTING IN HIS OWN COUNTRY, had a better resume than Chisora at Heavyweight....and put up a terrible performance.....
                    Adamek sucks he got beat down by pillow fisted Dawson Chisora is 100 times better

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      You don't need to adjust if you're winning damn near every round.

                      What he was doing was working, and quite well.

                      Sure Chisora had some moments, and I applaud him for coming to actually fight, and let his hands go unlike a lot of the other HW's, but even with that.. Vitali still kept his cool and did everything he needed to do to win the fight, and win comfortably.
                      You're either intentionally missing the point or you just cant grasp it. Vitaly won the fight, that's great. Believe it or not I would have been disgusted to have seen Vitaly lose. The fight is only a catalyst for what Im talking about, which is how Vitaly fights and his perceived abilities and inabilities.

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