If Pacquaio isnt at a disadvantage, it isnt a fair fight!

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  • hugh grant
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    #71
    People do realize pac is the true p4p king, so they expect him to move up and down like a yo yo. The standards they place on Pac is higher than mere mortals like Floyd

    Floyd cant move up to 154 without kicking up a fuss and acting like a diva and he cant move down to 140. Its like he is cemented to the spot like he is in quicksand and cant move.
    He will turn to stone if he ventures away from 147

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      #72
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      People do realize pac is the true p4p king, so they expect him to move up and down like a yo yo. The standards they place on Pac is higher than mere mortals like Floyd

      Floyd cant move up to 154 without kicking up a fuss and acting like a diva and he cant move down to 140. Its like he is cemented to the spot like he is in quicksand and cant move.
      He will turn to stone if he ventures away from 147
      im lost here this is Floyds second time fighting for a title at the full 154 against a current champion...Manny demanded 150 for a vacant title and wont leave 147 either..its always a damn catchweight.**** you talking about??

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        #73
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        People do realize pac is the true p4p king, so they expect him to move up and down like a yo yo. The standards they place on Pac is higher than mere mortals like Floyd

        Floyd cant move up to 154 without kicking up a fuss and acting like a diva and he cant move down to 140. Its like he is cemented to the spot like he is in quicksand and cant move.
        He will turn to stone if he ventures away from 147





        Umm he did and is doing so again.

        Pacquiao is the one who needed the catchweight hence, making a fuss and acting like a diva

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          #74
          conveniently ignoring the fact that Pac is smaller than Floyd and in fact Pac fighting at 147 is akin to floyd fighting at 154.

          Floyd is the one who takes long breaks and then makes excuses 154 is too big for me and dont take Sergio at 154 when there is a great opportunity to put on a great fight and be involved in a great fight before he retires for real this time. And not just pretend to retire to avoid Cotto and Margarito before.
          Lets face it retiring when you know full well its not for good, you arre up to games and no good.

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            #75
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            conveniently ignoring the fact that Pac is smaller than Floyd and in fact Pac fighting at 147 is akin to floyd fighting at 154.

            Floyd is the one who takes long breaks and then makes excuses 154 is too big for me and dont take Sergio at 154 when there is a great opportunity to put on a great fight and be involved in a great fight before he retires for real this time. And not just pretend to retire to avoid Cotto and Margarito before.
            Lets face it retiring when you know full well its not for good, you arre up to games and no good.
            No its not you imbecile... if Pac fighting @ 147 is such a strain how come he didn't even want Marquez @ 140 if going by your logic it would've benefited both fighters? Read between the lines buddy.

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              #76
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              People do realize pac is the true p4p king, so they expect him to move up and down like a yo yo. The standards they place on Pac is higher than mere mortals like Floyd

              Floyd cant move up to 154 without kicking up a fuss and acting like a diva and he cant move down to 140. Its like he is cemented to the spot like he is in quicksand and cant move.
              He will turn to stone if he ventures away from 147
              ^^^^^^^^^

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                #77
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                People do realize pac is the true p4p king, so they expect him to move up and down like a yo yo. The standards they place on Pac is higher than mere mortals like Floyd

                Floyd cant move up to 154 without kicking up a fuss and acting like a diva and he cant move down to 140. Its like he is cemented to the spot like he is in quicksand and cant move.
                He will turn to stone if he ventures away from 147
                Classic Pac fan boxing Knowledge!!! LOL!!!!

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Phil Ivey
                  No its not you imbecile... if Pac fighting @ 147 is such a strain how come he didn't even want Marquez @ 140 if going by your logic it would've benefited both fighters? Read between the lines buddy.
                  Well going all the way down to 140 and then coming up to 147 for floyd dont seem to smart really. Pacs scientifically got himself up to 147 for Floyd, so why go all the way down there and do it again.?
                  Pac wants Floyd so no need for Pac to play to JMMs tune, JMM was the desperate one for the fight. Dont Pac being the main man get himself any privileges? 144 seems like a good deal for JMM from where im standing.

                  Floyd has messed about too much now. Stop the talking and do it. He is already making excuses fighting Cotto at 154, and he should sign to fight Sergio at 154 no questions asked.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 02-11-2012, 09:06 PM.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Well going all the way down to 140 and then coming up to 147 for floyd dont seem to smart really. Pacs scientifically got himself up to 147 for Floyd, so why go all the way down there and do it again.?
                    Pac wants Floyd so no need for Pac to play to JMMs tune, JMM was the desperate one for the fight. Dont Pac being the main man get himself any privileges? 144 seems like a good deal for JMM from where im standing.

                    Floyd has messed about too much now. Stop the talking and do it. He is already making excuses fighting Cotto at 154, and he should sign to fight Sergio at 154 no questions asked.
                    Pac never wanted Mayweather.

                    Proof of that is that he never signed the contract.

                    Further proof was Manny's unwillingness to live up to the terms that he had agreed to earlier in the press. Terms like taking a paycut, fighting at any venue, fighting at any time.

                    Manny Pacquiao is 2" shorter than Mayweather and Mosley. He's relatively the same size. Yet he pretends to be the smaller man despite coming into many of his bouts on fight night as the bigger, heavier man.

                    I've said it before and I'll say it again:

                    Asking for catchweights is an admission of inadequacy. Demanding that an opponent cut weight is the equivalent of saying "I can't win without help".

                    Cut the out your nonsense, Hugh Grant. Since fighting Diaz, all of Pacquiao's opponents have been coming off the biggest losses of their careers barring insignificant tune ups. Neither you or Pacquiao are in any position to say who Floyd should fight. Mayweather has been fighting the #1 & 2 champions.

                    Who has Manny Pacquiao been fighting? Marquez is the last guy since 2008 that Pacquiao fought that had some top standing and had wins over other fighters with top standing. Who was the guy in 2008 that Pacquiao fought that had top standing? JMM!

                    Pathetic.

                    No other fighter in the history of boxing has had to use weight stipulations to be successful like Manny Pacquiao has.

                    Its unprecedented.

                    No boxer who has ever tried to make a case as being a great fighter had to do it by weakening his opponent BEFORE the actual match.

                    I don't care who doesn't like it. The real FACT is that little guy or not, when you stipulate weight, you're beating a guy on your terms, not under fair terms. It isn't a fair match if either fighter is not allowed to come in at his best.

                    I'd go as far to wager that Pacquaio COULD NOT defeat either DLH or Ortiz if he fought them at the same weight that Mayweather fought them.

                    My point?

                    Stop comparing Pacquiao to Mayweather. There is no competition. Manny leans on weight stipulations like a crutch, while Mayweather takes on his challenges like as true champion.

                    If and when Mayweather ever asks for shortcuts or advantages like Pacquiao has in the past, then that will be the time for comparisons. Until then, there is only one P4P#1 who has consistently fought the #1 and /or 2 champions in each division he's competed in.

                    Pacquiao has been called exciting and he fights like he's a demon.

                    However ....

                    No one should ever accuse Manny of taking on a challenge that others haven't.

                    No one should ever accuse Manny of being good enough to win on just his own ability.

                    No one should ever accuse Manny of being at the top of the WW division when he's never faced anyone better ranked the 4th.

                    No one should ever, ever, ever accuse Manny of being a jrMW titlist when Margarito himself hasn't ever been one.

                    No one should ever accuse Manny of wanting to fight Mayweather when it took him literally 3 years to agree to OST testing. Hmm ..

                    Get a grip. The hype has faded. JMM showed that Manny is no better than he ever was outside of improved stamina. Other than that he's the same ole same ole.

                    Arum knows it.

                    Roach knows it .. and that's why in a matter of months Mayweather went from being Manny's so-called easiest fight to his hardest fight. <-- hypocrisy never ends.

                    Pacquiao knows it .. and that's why he, despite his comments in the media, has always refused to commit to the fight by signing a contract.

                    PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING, B!TCHES!!

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                    • hugh grant
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                      When all is said and done Pac has asked for a CW twice, once against Cotto and Margarito. Not as bad as peopple make out is it?

                      But Floyd just dont fight and stays at 147, yet wont fight the best 147 guy in Pac. Yes Floyds going up to 154 now, well done, but so has Cotto gone up first. So Floyd dont deserve a medal for doing what cotto has done and for beating Pacs leftovers.

                      Floyds scared he'll turn to stone if he verntures above 154. Someone told Floyd he wont, so now he is reluctantly moving up again, probably to avoid Pac.

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