If Pacquaio isnt at a disadvantage, it isnt a fair fight!

[Brother Jay]

When all is said and done Pac has asked for a CW twice, once against Cotto and Margarito. Not as bad as peopple make out is it?

But Floyd just dont fight and stays at 147, yet wont fight the best 147 guy in Pac. Yes Floyds going up to 154 now, well done, but so has Cotto gone up first. So Floyd dont deserve a medal for doing what cotto has done and for beating Pacs leftovers.

Floyds scared he'll turn to stone if he verntures above 154. Someone told Floyd he wont, so now he is reluctantly moving up again, probably to avoid Pac.

You are forgetting his demand of the most extreme catchweight of all:

Oscar DelaHoya

That was the win that really put Manny Pacquiao's career on the map. He was already exciting, but he was really no star at that point. When he defeated DLH, despite him coming in bigger than DLH on fight night, he created the perception of being some "giant killer".

DLH hadn't competed at anything less than 147lbs in 7 years. Roach knows that you can beat a fighter before they ever step into the ring by beating them on the scales, but obviously you pretend to know of no such thing, Hugh Grant.

As I said, get a grip. My current signature says it all about Pacquiao:

Asking for catchweights is an admission of inadequacy. Demanding that an opponent cut weight is the equivalent of saying "I can't win without help".

No matter how YOU try to spin it, catchweights do nothing but express a lack of heart and confidence. Manny Pacquiao is 2" shorter than both Mayweather and Mosley. He is easily a WW. The only reason he asked for weight stipulations was because he didn't think that he could win without them.

Remember what Freddie Roach originally said:

"We would fight Shane Mosley if he's open to a catchweight of 142lbs".

This for a guy(Mosley) who had a year earlier been campaigning as a jrMW!

If that wasn't pathetic enough, Pacquiao then went up to fight Margarito for a vacant 154lb belt ... despite him supposedly being too small to fight in legitimate WW matches.

Its double talk and hypocrisy.

Some of you just don't like how it tastes.

[hugh grant]

You are forgetting his demand of the most extreme catchweight of all:

Oscar DelaHoya

That was the win that really put Manny Pacquiao's career on the map. He was already exciting, but he was really no star at that point. When he defeated DLH, despite him coming in bigger than DLH on fight night, he created the perception of being some "giant killer".

DLH hadn't competed at anything less than 147lbs in 7 years. Roach knows that you can beat a fighter before they ever step into the ring by beating them on the scales, but obviously you pretend to know of no such thing, Hugh Grant.

As I said, get a grip. My current signature says it all about Pacquiao:

Asking for catchweights is an admission of inadequacy. Demanding that an opponent cut weight is the equivalent of saying "I can't win without help".

No matter how YOU try to spin it, catchweights do nothing but express a lack of heart and confidence. Manny Pacquiao is 2" shorter than both Mayweather and Mosley. He is easily a WW. The only reason he asked for weight stipulations was because he didn't think that he could win without them.

Remember what Freddie Roach originally said:

"We would fight Shane Mosley if he's open to a catchweight of 142lbs".

This for a guy(Mosley) who had a year earlier been campaigning as a jrMW!

If that wasn't pathetic enough, Pacquiao then went up to fight Margarito for a vacant 154lb belt ... despite him supposedly being too small to fight in legitimate WW matches.

Its double talk and hypocrisy.

Some of you just don't like how it tastes.

Not very succint are you? So DLH also was insecure about fighting Pac so he asked Pac move to 147 as he didnt fancy fighting Pac at 140 you could say? DLH believed he would beat Pac at 147 as DLH had fought there before believe it or not, even if not for many years. Requesting Pac fight at 147 was an admission from DLH that he didnt fancy Pac at his best weight of 140.

147 is a weight they were both happy with so dont put the blame on Pac? The TS is correct, people try to blame Pac and expect Pac to have his hands tied up before haters consider it a fair fight. My advice is if you get in the ring with Pac, just try and perform.

[turbotime]

Not very succint are you? So DLH also was insecure about fighting Pac so he asked Pac move to 147 as he didnt fancy fighting Pac at 140 you could say? DLH believed he would beat Pac at 147 as DLH had fought there before believe it or not, even if not for many years. Requesting Pac fight at 147 was an admission from DLH that he didnt fancy Pac at his best weight of 140.

147 is a weight they were both happy with so dont put the blame on Pac? The TS is correct, people try to blame Pac and expect Pac to have his hands tied up before haters consider it a fair fight. My advice is if you get in the ring with Pac, just try and perform.

Yet you agree the remarks about when Mosley tried to fight Pac and Pac ran and hid

[hbstowe]

for someone who has as many post as you your an idiot. know the facts when pacquiao was ask to fight dela hoya. pacman was still a 135lb fighter. dela hoya made him jump two weight classes. they fought at 147 lbs at the request of dela hoya its not a catchweight fight. it was a welterweight fight. not as bad as floyd fighting 2 lbs overweight against marquez after he made marquez jump two weight classes. know your facts.

[Deevel916]

You are forgetting his demand of the most extreme catchweight of all:

Oscar DelaHoya
That was the win that really put Manny Pacquiao's career on the map. He was already exciting, but he was really no star at that point. When he defeated DLH, despite him coming in bigger than DLH on fight night, he created the perception of being some "giant killer".

DLH hadn't competed at anything less than 147lbs in 7 years. Roach knows that you can beat a fighter before they ever step into the ring by beating them on the scales, but obviously you pretend to know of no such thing, Hugh Grant.

As I said, get a grip. My current signature says it all about Pacquiao:

Asking for catchweights is an admission of inadequacy. Demanding that an opponent cut weight is the equivalent of saying "I can't win without help".

No matter how YOU try to spin it, catchweights do nothing but express a lack of heart and confidence. Manny Pacquiao is 2" shorter than both Mayweather and Mosley. He is easily a WW. The only reason he asked for weight stipulations was because he didn't think that he could win without them.

Remember what Freddie Roach originally said:

"We would fight Shane Mosley if he's open to a catchweight of 142lbs".

This for a guy(Mosley) who had a year earlier been campaigning as a jrMW!

If that wasn't pathetic enough, Pacquiao then went up to fight Margarito for a vacant 154lb belt ... despite him supposedly being too small to fight in legitimate WW matches.

Its double talk and hypocrisy.

Some of you just don't like how it tastes.

Wasnt it Oscar who asked for the fight at 147?

[Einstien]

Is it me or does this seem to be the case? The haters either want him to drop a weight class to face someone, or jump 1 or 2 weight classes to face the top dog there. When talks of Pac vs JMM III were going on, the haters were claiming that Pac is trying to fight a bloated LW by having the fight at a 144 CW and it should take place at 140. The fight took place, JMM looked great, and all the CW talk went out the window.

Next Sergio Martinez went on a tirade of call outs and challenged both Pac and Floyd even after Sergio was quoted as saying that "Pacquiao was too small". Pac said Sergio would have to come down in weight to face him but once again the haters claim that Pac should move up to 154 and face Martinez. So let me understand this.......They wanted Pac to move down to 140 to face JMM for their 3rd bout because they claim he can easily make 140 but then turn around and criticize him for not wanting to move up to 154 to face the likes of Cotto or Martinez? Talk about holding someone to a higher standard than god himself! LOL. Never mind the fact that @ 154, both Martinez and Cotto would have about a 12-17lb weight advantage against a fighter who has never even weighed in at the WW limit of 147! Funny how nobody talks about that though!

CW's are meant to even the playing field for 2 fighters who generally fight 1 weight class apart. An agreement is made for both of them to meet somewhere in the middle. In the case of Pac though, it seems as if Pac isnt the one doing all the sacrificing, then its considered an unfair bout. Even when he shuts out an opponent (Mosley) 12rnds - 0, somehow he's considered "exposed" by the haters! LOL. Go figure!

Its more like if Pacquiao doesn't have an advantage going into the fight....the fight wont happen.

[Boxingtech718v2]

People still talk Pac/May topics? Why?
Those punks have been dodging each other for too long. Fuack em both!

[Carpe Diem]

He was on fight night against Pac. Fact! He weighed 163lbs.

If Pac were to have a 17lbs advantage on fight night against a LWW, are u too then going to say "And?" I highly doubt it! LOL.

Ortiz weighed 164 on fight night against Floyd. Baldomir weighed 162 on fight night against Floyd. Does that mean they were middleweights?

[Deevel916]

Ortiz weighed 164 on fight night against Floyd. Baldomir weighed 162 on fight night against Floyd. Does that mean they were middleweights?

Ummmm. Yes! If you're opponent weighs 160+lbs when its time to fight, then he's a MW.