If Pacquaio isnt at a disadvantage, it isnt a fair fight!

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  • Deevel916
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    #11
    Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
    Rehydration weight has nothing to do with weight classes. And Marg never fought at middleweight.
    Correction: Margarito never fought in the MW division. Margarito weighed in as a MW on fight night though! U can twist and turn it anyway you like by adding weight class lingo into it. Fact of the matter is, if you weigh 160+lbs when its time for the punches to start flying, you are indeed a MW.
    Last edited by Deevel916; 02-11-2012, 02:56 PM.

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    • BigStereotype
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      #12
      You're embarrassing yourself.

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      • Deevel916
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        #13
        Originally posted by BigStereotype
        You're embarrassing yourself.
        How about instead of giving a 5th grade response, elaborate how i'm wrong?

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        • Heeb
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          #14
          Fight night weight doesn't mean shit. Seriously, people put way too much stock in it.

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          • Khalid X
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            #15
            Originally posted by Heeb
            Fight night weight doesn't mean shit. Seriously, people put way too much stock in it.
            That's not true.

            By coming in that much bigger than your opponent put you at a huge advantage in the sense you can absorb/take your opponents punches a lot better.

            If you don't think that's an advantage....then I really don't know what to tell you.

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            • Deevel916
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              #16
              Originally posted by Heeb
              Fight night weight doesn't mean shit. Seriously, people put way too much stock in it.
              It doesnt? So are u saying that a fighter would be just as effective if he puts on no weight and comes in on fight night the same as his previous day weigh in weight? LOL. If it "doesnt mean *****", why do 99% of boxers do it?

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              • BigStereotype
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                #17
                Originally posted by Deevel916
                How about instead of giving a 5th grade response, elaborate how i'm wrong?
                You simply can't make an argument that he's been at a disadvantage in ANY fight, let alone every fight. You just can't.

                Marquez - 37 year old super featherweight WHIPPED THAT ASS

                Margarito - Come on

                Clottey - Not really that good, not too much bigger, either. Slow, no power, didn't come to fight.

                Cotto - Elite p4p fighter...having trouble making the weight and forced to come two pounds down. Now this is a good win regardless, but there's no argument that Pac was at a DISadvantage.

                Hatton - Cokehead, fat, shot, not really that good to begin with (fun fighter with a lot of talent but never really all that)

                De La Hoya - Pac shoulda been at one here, I'll admit that. BUT he was facing a corpse who's plan backfired. It's not like De La Hoya thought he was gonna come in like a scrub.

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                • CHOWWOKKA
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  Correction: Margarito never fought in the MW division. Margarito weighed in as a MW on fight night though! U can twist and turn it anyway you like by adding weight class lingo into it. Fact of the matter is, if you weigh 160+lbs when its time for the punches to start flying, you are indeed a MW.
                  ..........Nah

                  Their is a huge diffrence between being a middleweight, dry at 6% bodyfat and dehydrating to a middleweight with water and protein shakes. Margarito doesn't hit as hard as a middle weight. You don't build muscle over night buddy..

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                  • Bushbaby
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Fvck LamarSmith
                    That's not true.

                    By coming in that much bigger than your opponent put you at a huge advantage in the sense you can absorb/take your opponents punches a lot better.

                    If you don't think that's an advantage....then I really don't know what to tell you.
                    A fighter fighting at his walking around weight nulifies any waterweight advantage.

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                    • BigStereotype
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Heeb
                      Fight night weight doesn't mean shit. Seriously, people put way too much stock in it.
                      I wouldn't say it doesn't mean shit. But if you're totally outgunned in every way, a couple extra pounds isn't going to save you. Margarito was a slow ass punching bag. If he had been his old self, maybe that 16 pounds would have mattered more. You could see the impact his size had when he got Pac on the ropes.

                      But yeah, it's not enough to win a fight.

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