What is the requirements of an ATG?

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  • FJRod
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    #11
    IMO both are ALL TIME GREATS with Manny being above Floyd... Also a question...How many All -Time greats have they defeated each? I know Pac has Morales and Barrera for sure.

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    • raskat
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      #12
      Originally posted by ThePhantom5
      Keep dreaming......

      Originally posted by SpeedKillz
      you must be the coolest kid on your block.

      gtfo you clown
      you think it matters to me what you clowns think or pretend to think? Do you think it mattered to Muhammad Ali when the whole world wanted him to go to Vietnam? Do you think Pacquiao cares about a few clowns like you guys who post their crap on a boxing forum all day long?
      The truth always prevails. And if Pacquiao is not the greatest ever, we will see it. But as far as Im concerned, he is a top 5 ATG NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS NOW IN HIS CAREER. he can lose 10 fights in a row from now on and in his last 2 fights get knocked out by Charlie Zelenoff and Andrew Hartley, but he would still be a top 5 ATG.
      you guys need to stop hating and maybe just fokk off the internet

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      • raskat
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        #13
        Originally posted by FJRod
        IMO both are ALL TIME GREATS with Manny being above Floyd... Also a question...How many All -Time greats have they defeated each? I know Pac has Morales and Barrera for sure.
        add Marquez, de la Hoya and Cotto to that list.

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        • da_beast
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          #14
          Originally posted by ИATAS206
          not that I think pac is top 5 (lol), but he only had one fight at 135 so that's a silly thing to say considering he moved up and fought bigger & better names.

          The plan was for pac to move up to 135. They tested the water fighting a safe fight with David Diaz. The plan was to stay there, however the crazy idea of fighting Oscar was brought up, then it became reality and the rest is history.
          If that was the case then i would say thats ok.. I understand he was testing the waters with Diaz and the Oscar fight was big business..

          If thats the case amd he was just testing the water and notcherry pickinga title i will admit in that statement i was wrong...

          Lightweight was a great division then and i would have loved to see him fight Casamayor for the Lineal title

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          • FJRod
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            #15
            Originally posted by raskat
            add Marquez, de la Hoya and Cotto to that list.
            Marquez possibly...Not Cotto or De La Hoya.

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            • da_beast
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              #16
              Originally posted by FJRod
              IMO both are ALL TIME GREATS with Manny being above Floyd... Also a question...How many All -Time greats have they defeated each? I know Pac has Morales and Barrera for sure.
              Both have Marquez on their resume

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              • DeadLikeMe
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                #17
                Originally posted by raskat
                you think it matters to me what you clowns think or pretend to think? Do you think it mattered to Muhammad Ali when the whole world wanted him to go to Vietnam? Do you think Pacquiao cares about a few clowns like you guys who post their crap on a boxing forum all day long?
                The truth always prevails. And if Pacquiao is not the greatest ever, we will see it. But as far as Im concerned, he is a top 5 ATG NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS NOW IN HIS CAREER. he can lose 10 fights in a row from now on and in his last 2 fights get knocked out by Charlie Zelenoff and Andrew Hartley, but he would still be a top 5 ATG.
                you guys need to stop hating and maybe just fokk off the internet
                Did you just compare Pac not sticking around LW to Ali being a conscientious objector to the Vietnam War?

                I sometimes wonder if some of you *******s have problems with things like dressing yourselves and not running with scissors.

                Seriously though, ATG lists are quite subjective. If one places more of an emphasis on resume any persons list will look a bit different than one where you place an emphasis on talent.
                Last edited by DeadLikeMe; 02-09-2012, 01:29 PM.

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                • raskat
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by FJRod
                  Marquez possibly...Not Cotto or De La Hoya.
                  ur a clown. not worth my time to feed a troll

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                  • raskat
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
                    Did you just compare Pac not sticking around LW to Ali being a conscientious objector to the Vietnam War?

                    I seriously wonder if some of you *******s have problems with things like dressing yourselves and not running with scissors.

                    Seriously though, ATG great lists are quite subjective. If one places more of an emphasis on resume any persons list will look a bit different than one where you place an emphasis on talent.
                    I didnt compare anything. you are clown. probably a *****sexual who doesnt admit he is one. as I said, nobody cares what a clown like yourself thinks or pretends to think.

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                    • Evil Abed
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by raskat
                      you think it matters to me what you clowns think or pretend to think? Do you think it mattered to Muhammad Ali when the whole world wanted him to go to Vietnam? Do you think Pacquiao cares about a few clowns like you guys who post their crap on a boxing forum all day long?
                      The truth always prevails. And if Pacquiao is not the greatest ever, we will see it. But as far as Im concerned, he is a top 5 ATG NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS NOW IN HIS CAREER. he can lose 10 fights in a row from now on and in his last 2 fights get knocked out by Charlie Zelenoff and Andrew Hartley, but he would still be a top 5 ATG.
                      you guys need to stop hating and maybe just fokk off the internet
                      WTF are you talking about? Don't compare Ali's issues with Manny's non-issues.

                      Pac's an ATG.

                      But he's not a top 5. You might be able to argue top 25 or 20.

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