Is it conceivable that Arum would pay a fighter to lose?

[Eaner0919]

why pay a fighter when you can bring judges in that know exactly what the deal is?

judges make more for world title fights. they know who the promoter "wants to win"


judges seek to gain the favor of promoters
why wouldnt you want to gain the favor of your boss // whoever is paying you and hiring you?

agreed 100%

fixing is easier with judges and commissions because they can work things so subtly that you may never tell when a fight has been written in the books

[Eaner0919]

and if anyone thinks it's just Bob they're delusional

[IMDAZED]

and if anyone thinks it's just Bob they're delusional

Basically. Anyone who has seen more than five FULL cards/boxing shows all the way through can tell you fights get fixed all the time.

[Khalid X]

Let's use some common sense here.

First of all, the commission picks the judges and even at that, for big title fights, those judges are usually the best in the business. They have a rep to maintain and why risk it by turning in a ridiculous score card. Guys like Dave Moretti, Duane Ford and others are pretty accurate in there scoring.

Also If I'm an underdog, why not take the money, beat the guy anyway and get more money in the rematch. People don't understand what it takes to get to the top for most of these contenders, and shots at big names are once in a lifetime opportunity. What sense does it make to blow an opportunity like that when if you win, it can be career changing.

When Marquez got a draw against Manny, his career was completely changed and he became a big name in the sport. Look at what Martinez win over Pavlik then....hell look at Pacs win over Barrera.

It just takes one fight, to shoot to the top, so I doubt any amount of money would make a fighter blow an opportunity especially considering the long term affects a win would have.

[Khalid X]

and if anyone thinks it's just Bob they're delusional

If I had to pick anyone it would be GBP who are the ones fixing fights.

I haven't seen any top Rank judging robberies, but a lot of GBP ones.

Casa vs Santa Cruz
Diaz vs Malignnagi
Funeka vs Guzman

and the list goes on and on.

however one of there guys Lara was robbed blind against goosen fighter Williams

[Eaner0919]

If I had to pick anyone it would be GBP who are the ones fixing fights.

I haven't seen any top Rank judging robberies, but a lot of GBP ones.

Casa vs Santa Cruz
Diaz vs Malignnagi
Funeka vs Guzman

and the list goes on and on.

however one of there guys Lara was robbed blind against goosen fighter Williams

Al Haymon trumps Golden Boy my friend lol

and around Cali the general thought is that CSAC is in GBP's pockets

[IMDAZED]

First of all, the commission picks the judges and even at that, for big title fights, those judges are usually the best in the business. They have a rep to maintain and why risk it by turning in a ridiculous score card. Guys like Dave Moretti, Duane Ford and others are pretty accurate in there scoring.

Yes, two out of 2000. For every Dave Moretti, there's a Tony Paolillo or Eugenia Williams ready to make a mockery out of your common sense.

Also If I'm an underdog, why not take the money, beat the guy anyway and get more money in the rematch. People don't understand what it takes to get to the top for most of these contenders, and shots at big names are once in a lifetime opportunity. What sense does it make to blow an opportunity like that when if you win, it can be career changing.

Because you might get blackballed and fall off the face of the earth. Happens all the time.

[IMDAZED]

Al Haymon trumps Golden Boy my friend lol

and around Cali the general thought is that CSAC is in GBP's pockets

Ya think?

[Kagami Taiga]

Al Haymon trumps Golden Boy my friend lol

and around Cali the general thought is that CSAC is in GBP's pockets

al haymon trumps just about everyone. if arum is darth vader, haymon is more akin to emperor palpatine. the overwhelming presence u kno is there but u never see.

[Eaner0919]

Let's use some common sense here.

First of all, the commission picks the judges and even at that, for big title fights, those judges are usually the best in the business. They have a rep to maintain and why risk it by turning in a ridiculous score card. Guys like Dave Moretti, Duane Ford and others are pretty accurate in there scoring.

Also If I'm an underdog, why not take the money, beat the guy anyway and get more money in the rematch. People don't understand what it takes to get to the top for most of these contenders, and shots at big names are once in a lifetime opportunity. What sense does it make to blow an opportunity like that when if you win, it can be career changing.

When Marquez got a draw against Manny, his career was completely changed and he became a big name in the sport. Look at what Martinez win over Pavlik then....hell look at Pacs win over Barrera.

It just takes one fight, to shoot to the top, so I doubt any amount of money would make a fighter blow an opportunity especially considering the long term affects a win would have.

because what would be more lucrative to you

getting that shot on the contingency that you are to fight gamely but not enough to win, be paid more than expected because of the agreement, decide to go against that, beat the guy, and essentially get no more fights on the horizon?

happens a lot more than people think

or take the fight, lose gamely then have that same promoter use you continously