Donaire not a P4P

[AdamantiumPI]

That's fine. I think Mares schools him and I think Rigo knocks him out but to each his own. Personally though I still don't think he is a P4P

Mares doesn't have the power to hurt Donaire. Mares has a good chin and stamina; the only way mares would win is by a close decision by Ruben Garcia.

Donaire can beat Mares in many different ways via ko, or boxing his ears off. Rigondeaux and Donaire would be a close chess match that could go either way.

Donaire is not top 5 on my list but I still think he is p4p top 10. Vazquez put up a good performance, but Donaire was just clowning around and didn't fight smart.

The only people I would list ahead of Donaire are: Pacquiao, Mayweather, Martinez, Ward, Marquez and Wladimir. Pongsaklek fights bums and is protected in Thailand and Timothy Bradley doesn't deserve to be listed ahead of Donaire.

[ИATAS]

Donaire didn't have the same kind of flash, pop in punches, his face was peppered red by jabs where mares has a better jab and better all around skill than wv2. He tired late where mares would jump on it and bully him around the ring at this point. He was big for the lower class but not big here. Mares can box, brawl, and take punch.

dude, you didn't break down anything all you did was point out some of the things donaire didn't do great against vazquez at 122 (he still won like 9-10 rounds despite all that).

And Mares is at 118 he'd be moving up to 122 as well. He's 5′ 4½″ with 64" reach.

Really what I'm looking for, is based on Mares style and donaire's style, how the hell can mares be successful at all against Donaire? What is he going to do in the ring? What would be his strategy?

[4Corners]

Donaire is Top 10 P4P, though he shouldn't be ahead of Andre Ward.

Donaire fought top people for sure at FW and SFW, but besides Montiel, he didn't do much at 118 at all. He didn't fight Mares, Moreno, or Agbeko. And it appears he's probably not going to fight Rigondeaux, the best 122 lb fighter along with him.

I'd favor Donaire over those guys, though it wouldn't be easy at all. I had Donaire winning 117-110 against WV2, and while I am sure his hand played some sort of roll in the fight, I thought he'd steam roll Vazquez, as did most I think.

And Vazquez was a decent win, nothing more. WV2's first step up in competition was against a tiny Arce last year and he got TKO'd by him. Vazquez was about as proven as Rico Ramos, maybe even less.

I'd have Donaire at 6-7 on the P4P list. Ward dominated everyone at Super Middleweight and easily. I'd have him #4 P4P. People here claim "Well Nonito jumped through 4 divisions and won titles", it's not like Andre Ward can just jump divisions. He's already at 168. The highest he'll probably ever go is to LHW, maybe CW in the end.

Nonito is a great fighter and he's coming into the years of defining his legacy. I just hope he doesn't only end up fighting the likes or Arce, Nishioka, and Lopez in his biggest fights at 122-126. While those are good wins, I want to see him tested by Rigondeaux, and eventually by Gary Russell Jr and Mikey Garcia, if they indeed become great fighters.

[Chups]

News Flash!! Vasquez got robbed!!!



WILFREDO VAZQUEZ JR. WAS ROBBED IN THE NONITO DONAIRE FIGHT
SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2012
http://www.nowboxing.com/2012/02/wilfre ... ght/23095/


By Lester Salvador

I am disgusted with the outcome of Nonito Donaire vs. Wilfredo Vazquez Jr., it was another robbery involving a hyped Top Rank fighter.

My prediction was a knockout for Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. but instead Vazquez decided to put on a boxing clinic and land the cleaner more effective blows.

I told you all that Nonito was just another overrated fighter like Manny Pacquiao, and I was correct again, he struggled against Vazquez just like Pacquiao struggled against Joshua Clottey, Shane Mosley, and Juan Manuel Marquez.

I cannot believe two judges scored the fight 117-110 in favor of Donaire, what fight were they watching? The only judge who was fair and got the score right was Dr. Ruben Garcia who scored it 115-112 for Vasquez.

First we see Juan Manuel Marquez outbox Manny Pacquiao and get robbed, now we see a classy Puerto Rican boxer like Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. get robbed against Nonito Donaire.

Boxing really needs to get better judging because this to me is what is wrong with the sport, some of these judges just favor the star fighter.

After last night, I hope people see that Nonito Donaire is not a very intelligent fighter, he never went to the body, he got hit by jabs all night and he didn’t know how to bait Vazquez.

Donaire just like Pacquiao is the product of proper Top Rank matchmaking. Nonito will not last at the 122 or 126 weight divisions because his power is nothing and he doesn’t have the skill to beat elite Cuban boxers like Guillermo Rigondeaux or Yuriorkis Gamboa, and this time just like when he fought Vazquez the fighters will be bigger and stronger than him.

[brick wall]

Donaire didn't have the same kind of flash, pop in punches, his face was peppered red by jabs where mares has a better jab and better all around skill than wv2. He tired late where mares would jump on it and bully him around the ring at this point. He was big for the lower class but not big here. Mares can box, brawl, and take punch.

don't you get it? what makes your post idiotic is the word "school". you talk as if donaire is just about power. the guy got skills more than what mares can bring. and even with the kind of power that donaire showed last night, he still has more than mares. he got more power, speed and skills...how can mares school a fighter like that?

[Filo]

News Flash!! Vasquez got robbed!!!



WILFREDO VAZQUEZ JR. WAS ROBBED IN THE NONITO DONAIRE FIGHT
SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2012
http://www.nowboxing.com/2012/02/wilfre ... ght/23095/


By Lester Salvador

I am disgusted with the outcome of Nonito Donaire vs. Wilfredo Vazquez Jr., it was another robbery involving a hyped Top Rank fighter.

My prediction was a knockout for Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. but instead Vazquez decided to put on a boxing clinic and land the cleaner more effective blows.

I told you all that Nonito was just another overrated fighter like Manny Pacquiao, and I was correct again, he struggled against Vazquez just like Pacquiao struggled against Joshua Clottey, Shane Mosley, and Juan Manuel Marquez.

I cannot believe two judges scored the fight 117-110 in favor of Donaire, what fight were they watching? The only judge who was fair and got the score right was Dr. Ruben Garcia who scored it 115-112 for Vasquez.

First we see Juan Manuel Marquez outbox Manny Pacquiao and get robbed, now we see a classy Puerto Rican boxer like Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. get robbed against Nonito Donaire.

Boxing really needs to get better judging because this to me is what is wrong with the sport, some of these judges just favor the star fighter.

After last night, I hope people see that Nonito Donaire is not a very intelligent fighter, he never went to the body, he got hit by jabs all night and he didn’t know how to bait Vazquez.

Donaire just like Pacquiao is the product of proper Top Rank matchmaking. Nonito will not last at the 122 or 126 weight divisions because his power is nothing and he doesn’t have the skill to beat elite Cuban boxers like Guillermo Rigondeaux or Yuriorkis Gamboa, and this time just like when he fought Vazquez the fighters will be bigger and stronger than him.

Ay caramba!! ahahah loco! yes rican Philippines was also a spanish colony

[Filo]

News Flash!! Vasquez got robbed!!!



WILFREDO VAZQUEZ JR. WAS ROBBED IN THE NONITO DONAIRE FIGHT
SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2012
http://www.nowboxing.com/2012/02/wilfre ... ght/23095/


By Lester Salvador

I am disgusted with the outcome of Nonito Donaire vs. Wilfredo Vazquez Jr., it was another robbery involving a hyped Top Rank fighter.

My prediction was a knockout for Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. but instead Vazquez decided to put on a boxing clinic and land the cleaner more effective blows.

I told you all that Nonito was just another overrated fighter like Manny Pacquiao, and I was correct again, he struggled against Vazquez just like Pacquiao struggled against Joshua Clottey, Shane Mosley, and Juan Manuel Marquez.

I cannot believe two judges scored the fight 117-110 in favor of Donaire, what fight were they watching? The only judge who was fair and got the score right was Dr. Ruben Garcia who scored it 115-112 for Vasquez.

First we see Juan Manuel Marquez outbox Manny Pacquiao and get robbed, now we see a classy Puerto Rican boxer like Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. get robbed against Nonito Donaire.

Boxing really needs to get better judging because this to me is what is wrong with the sport, some of these judges just favor the star fighter.

After last night, I hope people see that Nonito Donaire is not a very intelligent fighter, he never went to the body, he got hit by jabs all night and he didn’t know how to bait Vazquez.

Donaire just like Pacquiao is the product of proper Top Rank matchmaking. Nonito will not last at the 122 or 126 weight divisions because his power is nothing and he doesn’t have the skill to beat elite Cuban boxers like Guillermo Rigondeaux or Yuriorkis Gamboa, and this time just like when he fought Vazquez the fighters will be bigger and stronger than him.

Ay caramba!! ahahah loco ese!

[AdamantiumPI]

Donaire didn't have the same kind of flash, pop in punches, his face was peppered red by jabs where mares has a better jab and better all around skill than wv2. He tired late where mares would jump on it and bully him around the ring at this point. He was big for the lower class but not big here. Mares can box, brawl, and take punch.

Mares is your typical Mexican fighter relentless come forward fighter. Mares can also box, but he doesn't have Donaire's boxing skills. Like Pac, Donaire eats these type of fighters for breakfast but in a different way. Mares is tailor made for Donaire the same way Arce is, which is why Arum will make Arce-Donaire next.

[Fetta]

don't you get it? what makes your post idiotic is the word "school". you talk as if donaire is just about power. the guy got skills more than what mares can bring. and even with the kind of power that donaire showed last night, he still has more than mares. he got more power, speed and skills...how can mares school a fighter like that?

Like I said earlier that's fine for you to think that. When/if they fight we will see. I dont think he has more skills or power at this weight. He looked sluggish, tired fast, and didn't have the same pop. Speed ok but mares isn't as fast but he isn't a turtle in there. I don't see anything in doNaire arsenal that can beat mares but to each his own.

But the subject here is I personally think he's good may be great one day but for now he is not on my P4P list but he is close

[brick wall]

News Flash!! Vasquez got robbed!!!



WILFREDO VAZQUEZ JR. WAS ROBBED IN THE NONITO DONAIRE FIGHT
SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2012
http://www.nowboxing.com/2012/02/wilfre ... ght/23095/


By Lester Salvador

I am disgusted with the outcome of Nonito Donaire vs. Wilfredo Vazquez Jr., it was another robbery involving a hyped Top Rank fighter.

My prediction was a knockout for Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. but instead Vazquez decided to put on a boxing clinic and land the cleaner more effective blows.

I told you all that Nonito was just another overrated fighter like Manny Pacquiao, and I was correct again, he struggled against Vazquez just like Pacquiao struggled against Joshua Clottey, Shane Mosley, and Juan Manuel Marquez.

I cannot believe two judges scored the fight 117-110 in favor of Donaire, what fight were they watching? The only judge who was fair and got the score right was Dr. Ruben Garcia who scored it 115-112 for Vasquez.

First we see Juan Manuel Marquez outbox Manny Pacquiao and get robbed, now we see a classy Puerto Rican boxer like Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. get robbed against Nonito Donaire.

Boxing really needs to get better judging because this to me is what is wrong with the sport, some of these judges just favor the star fighter.

After last night, I hope people see that Nonito Donaire is not a very intelligent fighter, he never went to the body, he got hit by jabs all night and he didn’t know how to bait Vazquez.

Donaire just like Pacquiao is the product of proper Top Rank matchmaking. Nonito will not last at the 122 or 126 weight divisions because his power is nothing and he doesn’t have the skill to beat elite Cuban boxers like Guillermo Rigondeaux or Yuriorkis Gamboa, and this time just like when he fought Vazquez the fighters will be bigger and stronger than him.

deym

that's like reading some ******ed posts in nsb