Agree or disagree with this statement.......

[brick wall]

don't know how a lederman scorecard could suggest any scoring syndrome?

kellerman must be talking out of his a$$ again.

[Mohammedini]

Harold gave Castillo the round that Floyd got a point deduction, making it a 10-8 in favor to Castillo.
One of the dumbest round scoring I have ever seen.
Floyd was winning 2 1/4 minutes of that round until a couple of clean punches from Castillo and a 30 sec flurry...

Harold also scored Pac vs JMM 4, 8-4 to Pac SMFH

[FJRod]

When ever I give a fighter a round and Ledderman scores it the same way I sit there and analyze it. I have absolutey no confidence in his scoring. His daughter is better from what I have seen so far.

[Russian Crushin]

That is frankly bull****.

His cards are more often than not terrible.

Gimme an example of when this is true, when his scorecards are terrible and not the JMM-Pac fight. He had almost the exact scorecard as the 2 judges that gave Donaire the fight, the only difference is the 10-8 round

[Russian Crushin]

Harold gave Castillo the round that Floyd got a point deduction, making it a 10-8 in favor to Castillo.
One of the dumbest round scoring I have ever seen.
Floyd was winning 2 1/4 minutes of that round until a couple of clean punches from Castillo and a 30 sec flurry...

Harold also scored Pac vs JMM 4, 8-4 to Pac SMFH

That is a tactic used by many many fighters to swing rounds. Sugar Ray Leonard made a career of it. Its a psychological thing.

But i dont know the round youre speaking up so i cant judge in this case

[Deevel916]

I think its because judges prefer to favor aggresion. If you hit me with 3 love taps, while I crack you with one solid thudding blow, I inflicted more damage to you than you did to me, and therefore the judges see it as who did more damage rather than who landed more punches.

[IronDanHamza]

Gimme an example of when this is true, when his scorecards are terrible and not the JMM-Pac fight. He had almost the exact scorecard as the 2 judges that gave Donaire the fight, the only difference is the 10-8 round

I don't know, the Kotelnik-Alexander fight?

The Hatton-Mayweather fight? Had it even going into the 9th.

The Williams-Quintana 1 fight?

These are 3 examples off the top of my head where he is scoring has been an overwhelmingly bad level.

He scored Round 1 of Mayweather-Chavez to Chavez.

He's a **** judge.

[FJRod]

That is a tactic used by many many fighters to swing rounds. Sugar Ray Leonard made a career of it. Its a psychological thing.

But i dont know the round youre speaking up so i cant judge in this case

This^^^ De La Hoya did it also and yes it works. Creates an illusion, it's easier to remember the last minute than the first 2. Also for the most part shows who will be coming in the next round feeling better.

[Russian Crushin]

That was not a 10-8 round.

Lederman is absolutely terrible.

No, I see why he did, but just don't if most would have.

So, you disagree or agree with Kellermans statement???

Yea i agree that wasnt.

And no i disagree Floyd has won like 85%(not sure) of his career rounds. Mayweather does not have the same "syndrome" as Pernell. Plus I'd trust ledermans score card before trusting Kellermans psycho-analysis

[NEETzsche]

i agree with it in principal, but in pro boxing the effect of a punch also has to be taken into consideration, and castillo's cleanly landed punches were usually more hurtful than mayweather's (i'm speaking in generalities of the fight because i can't recall the specific punch(es) mentioned in the opening post).