Agree or disagree with this statement.......

[4Corners]

I don't know, the Kotelnik-Alexander fight?

The Hatton-Mayweather fight? Had it even going into the 9th.

The Williams-Quintana 1 fight?

These are 3 examples off the top of my head where he is scoring has been an overwhelmingly bad level.

He scored Round 1 of Mayweather-Chavez to Chavez.

He's a **** judge.

I couldn't believe his scoring in Mayweather-Hatton, that was god awful for sure. Going into the 10th, Floyd was up 7-2, 8-1, 8-1 in rounds on the official scorecards. I had it 7 rounds to 2 as well.

[Russian Crushin]

I don't know, the Kotelnik-Alexander fight?

The Hatton-Mayweather fight? Had it even going into the 9th.

The Williams-Quintana 1 fight?

These are 3 examples off the top of my head where he is scoring has been an overwhelmingly bad level.

He scored Round 1 of Mayweather-Chavez to Chavez.

He's a **** judge.

Ill admit that was a really bad one

He makes mistakes just like any judge, i mean he isnt an official one where it matter but overall i would trust his scorecard over almost any official judges

[IronDanHamza]

Ill admit that was a really bad one

He makes mistakes just like any judge, i mean he isnt an official one where it matter but overall i would trust his scorecard over almost any official judges

We all make mistakes, sure.

We all have our bad days, no matter what profession we're in.

And if it were a one off situation I would let it slide, but it's not a one off situation.

I can't recall which specific's but for all 3 of the Pac-Marquez fights his rounds were all over the place. For both fighters, giving clear Marquez rounds to Pac and vice versa.

I honestly would not expect a legal ****** to score Roun 1 of Mayweather-Chavez to Chavez. Mayweather hit him with like 20+ clean punches and Chavez landed at most 5 clean punches. Yet, Harold some how scored it to Chavez. You honestly have to have some sort of sight problem or innability to think to score it that way.

Then there's his Alexander-Kotelnik card which as you said it beyond a joke.

Then there's the Williams-Quintana card. He scored it for Paul Williams. Even the biggest Williams fanatics (at the time) couldn't even argue Williams won that fight.

Of course, he doesn't get them all wrong. He has good cards too, but he's supposed to. He works at the main unofficial judge for the biggest Boxing TV Company in the world. I should think and expect he should have some adequate cards.

Harold Lederman lost all credibility with me many years ago.

[bojangles1987]

Lederman also scored round 2 of Mayweather-Ortiz to Ortiz. I don't remember if he said anything about how he would have scored the fourth.

Lederman does have some truly awful scorecards, and Kotelnik-Alexander is the worst I can think of. 10-2 Alexander, the f***.

On point though, I disagree that Floyd loses rounds based on how few times he gets hit clean, that when he does his opponent gets rounds. It works that way here on NSB, but not with real judges.