Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux Furious: Says He Was Ignored in San Antonio

[frosty-g]

You were saying?

And, guy, please stop talking about Cuban fighters, people, culture, or anything to do with Cuba or Cubans. You clearly know nothing about us or the land we hail from. No doubt, you'll continue to spout ridiculous comments about things you know nothing about, but I just had to get that one out there....

Cuban, don't be too harsh on the young lad.. lmao...

some cases of extreme ******ity do deserve tough treatment.

[frosty-g]

I believe that there was an Asian fighter eho won a title in his 7th fight. Can't recall his name. Also there are several who won titles before their 10th fight.

Alos there was a mention about having to fight whoever Arum picks. It's his duty to make fights with the best attractions-who are not neccesserally the best fighters. This way not only he makes money, but the fighters make more. He's out of business if Top Rank doesn't make money. Just like any other business. There have been cases where fighters, before and after retirement, took court actions against their promoters alleging that they had not been properly matched to make them the most money possible.

you're not really worried that bob arum might not make enough cash are you?
you think rigondeaux would have any luck taking arum to court?

So boxing in the " free " world is great?? Promoters and commissions are corrupt and it´s also ridiculous that an athlete becomes ****** rich and some scientists don´t have a job. And don´t think just because you are Cuban ( probably Cuban-American) you know everything about Cuba.

half of the discussions on this website seem to be about who's able to dodge who and who's being pushed out, all because of money and corruption. and it's considered part and parcel of the game.
this is rigo's whole problem- he's got a major imbalance between amazing skills and not so amazing promotability PLUS a rival that has decent skills but great promotability.
now i know amateur boxing has some corruption but at least generally there very little mucking about when it comes to who gets to fight who.
the amount of *****ing about canelo, chavez jr. etc. it's largely justified but just as donaire being able to avoid rigondeaux, it is an inherent part of this game. sad really.

i see your point D, but he's been a pro for a couple years now and he has been very inactive

doesn't help that people avoid him. good fighters can get away with saying that it doesn't bring money to the table.
not so good fighters don't bring money for rigondeaux or any kind of motivation- he's beaten loads of guys far better than that- seeing as he left cuba partly for the money and partly for recognition, plus to fight the so-called "best", it would be rather ironic for him fight a lower level of competition and struggle along financially.

[MTN]

Maybe he wants Donaire because he is ranked by some as the #3 Lb4Lb. Also because they are both Top Rank fighters with few problems in making the fight. And he's not getting any younger.

I know why he wants the fight. I want to see the fight as much as anybody on these forums. But fact is nobody knows he is. He has a TINY fan base of hardcore boxing fans.

He beat a bum in his last fight that quit and had no business being a alphabet champ. The only quality fighter he has been in there with was Cordoba and Im sure that fight put almost everyone to sleep. The worse part was it was on HBO on a Pacquiao under card if Im correct? He blew his chance.

P4P Rigondeaux is one of the most skilled fighters in the sport. Everyone here are just speaking as hardcore fans which is cool but the fact is the sport nowadays does not cater to that group. Rigondeaux should fight 2-3 bigger names like Rafael Marquez, Arce, Darchinyan or Montiel if they choose to move up to give his resume some quality names. After that try to unify with Takalani or Toshiaki then fight Donaire. By then he would already have 12-13 fights which isn't much either but the names make it a big difference to market.

Donaire didn't look great his last performance to me because of a few reasons. First, WV2 got into his head and made things personal so he would go head hunting and look for the KO. Second, he was on HBO and wants to be a household name so he's leaving himself open to counter and look for the KO punch. Nonito himself good fight conservatively because he has the height the reach, the jab and the slickness to be a good at defense but then people will say he is boring.

[garfios]

So boxing in the " free " world is great?? Promoters and commissions are corrupt and it´s also ridiculous that an athlete becomes ****** rich and some scientists don´t have a job. And don´t think just because you are Cuban ( probably Cuban-American) you know everything about Cuba.

Oh but I do know about Cuba, actually I was given 20 years by the Government for not agreeing with a few things, mostly freedom, the international human rights got me out back in 78 and I landed in NY, I have one uncle that was in prison for over 25 years, this after being with Castro from the beginning, he didn't like the path taken, my other uncle lost a leg because he didn't move fast enough to get his lunch back in the circular (prison) of Isla de Pinos, I'm one of the lucky...

[garfios]

That's the point I'm trying to make, HBO didn't think there was enough 'quality' fights in Rigo that requires them to pay especial respect in public for him. But I bet if Rigo had 20-0, they'd be compelled to do so, even without about the 'quality'. Quality is very abstract idea to many people, but numbers sell. That's the way things are.

I can c your point, just joint the corruption and he will be okay...

[garfios]

9 fights and he wants everything handed to him on a platter. he's just looking for a pay day, fight and build your resume then come back to the table.

So fighting Donaires is easy?

[bojangles1987]

The stuff people on this site say never fails to leave me shaking my head in disbelief.

[garfios]

I believe that there was an Asian fighter eho won a title in his 7th fight. Can't recall his name. Also there are several who won titles before their 10th fight.

Alos there was a mention about having to fight whoever Arum picks. It's his duty to make fights with the best attractions-who are not neccesserally the best fighters. This way not only he makes money, but the fighters make more. He's out of business if Top Rank doesn't make money. Just like any other business. There have been cases where fighters, before and after retirement, took court actions against their promoters alleging that they had not been properly matched to make them the most money possible.

He was a Thai and won in his third fight but, he was a kick boxing world champion with alots of fights, and only a few has won a belt before their 10 fight, not several, Rigondeaux is the first to do it at 122.

[garfios]

I don't recall Lara wanting to give molina a remach do you? so stop your whinningand if you are going to criticize a fighter for ducking be objective and fair.

You didn't recalled but he offered the rematch, the thing is Molina was signed by De Cubas and I'm sure they will face each other for something more that bragging rights, and next time Shields will not be with Rigondeaux in Ireland and Lara will not have a problem with a tooth 3 days before the fight, as it is he never excused himself for his low work rate...

[damit305]

Boxers with 9 wins and whose best win is against ricardo cordoba should be ignored by fighters who are in the top 5 p4p of the whole sport who happens to be a 4 division champion with two spectacular ko wins over other two top 10 p4p fighters.

Righteously/Rightfully/justifiably so.

Did he seem like top 5 p4p material Sat night?