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  • bojangles1987
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    #31
    Originally posted by Larryx2011
    Canelo will most likely be next and that=unification match an lineal title at stake
    That's mind-boggingly wrong if Floyd-Alvarez was for a lineal title.

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #32
      Originally posted by Larryx2011
      man the things id do to that..................
      Those are my ho's larry. U gonna come up for some

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      • Barry Halls
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        #33
        Originally posted by bojangles1987
        That's mind-boggingly wrong if Floyd-Alvarez was for a lineal title.
        it would be #1 vs #2.

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          #34
          No complain here too.

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          • bojangles1987
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            #35
            Originally posted by Harry Balls
            it would be #1 vs #2.
            Alvarez would have to fight someone relevant for me to accept that. Cintron was a good start, but if he hasn't fought Lara, Kirkland, Molina, Dzinziruk, Bundrage, SOMEONE, then he shouldn't be at 1 or 2 in that division. Utter crap there.

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            • Barry Halls
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              #36
              Originally posted by bojangles1987
              Alvarez would have to fight someone relevant for me to accept that. Cintron was a good start, but if he hasn't fought Lara, Kirkland, Molina, Dzinziruk, Bundrage, SOMEONE, then he shouldn't be at 1 or 2 in that division. Utter crap there.
              the division is a mess. But it would be #1 vs #2 and as such for the lineal title.

              or the ring title i guess.

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              • BoxingGenius27
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                #37
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                He can't even make 147 for a fight at 150. He probably barely weighs 150 on fight night. He's in his 7th division. It's f***ing ******ed to ask "Why can't he put on 7 pounds and be effective?" I don't know, because he is at his limit? For f***'s sake, 7 divisions isn't enough?

                Pac also never put on 12 pounds in a year. I don't know what you are talking about there. That's a pretty ludicrous number to claim.



                Martinez is the only fighter at 154 worth the risk of moving up again, for Pac or Floyd IMO. None of those other fighters do jack sh** for Pac or Floyd. Pac is a small dude. He's the exact same size, if not smaller, than those guys at 140. It's perfect for him if he and Floyd are going to keep ducking each other.

                Again, Pac and Floyd campaigning at 154 is not something people should be expecting or criticizing them for not doing. If there is a fight there they feel like taking, fine. If not, it's ****** to hold it against them.
                Bojangles, Pac fought Marquez at 130 in March 08, then fought DLH at 145 in Dec 08. He literally put on 15 pounds of muscle in less than a year. WTF are you talking about?

                You don't even know that much and you're trying to tell me Pac can fight the best JMW at 154 but nobody else.

                Pac put on 15 pounds of muscle in less than a year almost 4 years ago, and you're telling me with age he can't put on another 7. Yeah, ok. Pac is ripped. A 7 pound move won't be the first time the little fella has "turned heads" with his weight gain.

                To answer your question, via PED's, no 7 divisions isn't enough.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                  Bojangles, Pac fought Marquez at 130 in March 08, then fought DLH at 145 in Dec 08. He literally put on 15 pounds of muscle in less than a year. WTF are you talking about?

                  You don't even know that much and you're trying to tell me Pac can fight the best JMW at 154 but nobody else.

                  Pac put on 15 pounds of muscle in less than a year almost 4 years ago, and you're telling me with age he can't put on another 7. Yeah, ok. Pac is ripped. A 7 pound move won't be the first time the little fella has "turned heads" with his weight gain.

                  To answer your question, via PED's, no 7 divisions isn't enough.





                  Why is his fight night weight close to identical with 15lbs of muscles gained?
                  3.5lbs added from marquez to oscar.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Harry Balls





                    Why is his fight night weight close to identical with 15lbs of muscles gained?
                    3.5lbs added from marquez to oscar.
                    I don't care about the fight night weight.

                    That just tells me that he could've made 147 a long time ago but drained himself, which proves my point even further that he can make 154.

                    At the end of the day, Pac is a strong WW; forget what the scales say about how much he weighs. He obviously punches like a Light Heavyweight.

                    But since we're going off fight night weights to prove our points..... I can have a field day with that one.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                      I don't care about the fight night weight.

                      That just tells me that he could've made 147 a long time ago but drained himself, which proves my point even further that he can make 154.

                      At the end of the day, Pac is a strong WW; forget what the scales say about how much he weighs. He obviously punches like a Light Heavyweight.

                      But since we're going off fight night weights to prove our points..... I can have a field day with that one.
                      You don't care about fight night weights, which is actually the best indicator of size? Instead you feel some obligation to spout off that Pac has gained 15lbs of muscles because he used to fight at 130? Yeah whatever man.

                      Pac does not punch like a light heavyweight. I guess you may be joking but if not you're clueless.

                      Oh, please feel free to have a field day proving Pac gained 15lbs of muscles from Marquez 2 -> Dela hoya. It would be most appreciated.

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