Pac refused to fight this version of Cotto without a CW

[VoodooChild]

You could say that , the big problem was when you put all the elements together , starting at side stepping Foreman saying he was too big , digging up Margo who was of a beating and a 2 yr forced cheaters layoff , he had no fight and could not get a US license until Arum pulled some strings , then you have Margo using diuretics to make weight , a 26ft ring , illegal gloves , a weight of 150 for a 154 title ,,,, add it all up kid the Margo fight was the biggest BS paper title scam Ive ever seen at top level !

Tony had what a 5" height, 6" reach and 15 - 20 lbs on him come fight night and it wasn't fair for Tony? This is too much!! I say both Pac's and Mayweather's catchweights are a little sketchy, I'm consistent in my view and not a hypocrite like you.

Cotto was legit negotiating a CW on paper in the beginning , for me Cotto didnt look right in the fight and the aftermath bolstered the idea the orignal CW effected Cotto , with Manny calling him out ( big significance ) and then running to a LW because Cotto would not abuse his body like that again his words with another CW , and Cotto the moment he was not tied to Arum saying the 145 CW killed him to make and that he was pressured into taking the 145 fight being promoted by the same guy as Manny and Manny being the lead star , next step Cotto leaves Arum , and here we are .

Work it all out its not really that hard if you look at all that happened leading up to , during , and after the fact , as they say hindsight is 20/20 vision .

So catchweights do hurt the opponent, Mayweather is trying to hurt and drain Canelo like Pac did to Cotto. Do you agree??

[Reloaded]

Well, see that was different. Now your comparing apples and oranges, It makes no difference if a 350 pound fighter asks a 352 pound fighter to lose 2 pounds but I figured u Pacroid infested idiots wouldn't understand that, ****** kids. Your to boxing dumb to understand boxing under the hood, Floyd RULES!!!

You make a lot of noise thats nothing but spam , admitting you know nothing of boxing mechanics doesnt excuse you from being so immature , guys like you ruin the forum from genuine debate .

[junior gong]

You make a lot of noise thats nothing but spam , admitting you know nothing of boxing mechanics doesnt excuse you from being so immature , guys like you ruin the forum from genuine debate .

Thats all very nice, but it has actually been proven repeatedly over 21 pages that you havent got a clue about boxing, let alone 'boxing mechanics' or 'boxing under the hood' or some other crap car analogy. You just press on regardless in the hope that someone, probably another weirdo like STAX will come in and agree with you. Is it not telling that that isnt happening in this thread? Is their not a point when the penny drops and you realise that this thread and these arguments of yours were a really bad idea?

[Reloaded]

Tony had what a 5" height, 6" reach and 15 - 20 lbs on him come fight night and it wasn't fair for Tony? This is too much!! I say both Pac's and Mayweather's catchweights are a little sketchy, I'm consistent in my view and not a hypocrite like you.



So catchweights do hurt the opponent, Mayweather is trying to hurt and drain Canelo like Pac did to Cotto. Do you agree??

I will say it slow , Tony needed diuretics to make weight , go find out what that means , it doesnt matter how much you outweigh an opponent if you are weight drained from training to make weigh-in weight , training to make weight is not the same as training to win , Canelo may very well fall into this when he begins training for the fight , we dont know until fight time when we can see the fight and if anything has surfaced in the meantime like diuretics or IV fluid infusions .

So No CWs dont hurt everybody only some , it depends on who and what weight they must make at the time , the individual circumstance rule the day .

I dont get how you guys are so rigid on a word , its like life is not like that but you guys just wrap up everything as the same deal , its not , each CW has its own set of dynamics bound by the individual fighter , that should be common sense but its obvious thats lacking here in kidsville .

[Reloaded]

Thats all very nice, but it has actually been proven repeatedly over 21 pages that you havent got a clue about boxing, let alone 'boxing mechanics' or 'boxing under the hood' or some other crap car analogy. You just press on regardless in the hope that someone, probably another weirdo like STAX will come in and agree with you. Is it not telling that that isnt happening in this thread? Is their not a point when the penny drops and you realise that this thread and these arguments of yours were a really bad idea?

You havent proved or disproved a thing you idiot buhahahaha .

[JD Salinger]

Here's my two-cents on the TS:

“Never argue with ****** people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

Pointless, really.

[White_Knight]

This thread is one of the most painful instances of self-ownage I've ever seen.

[VoodooChild]

I will say it slow , Tony needed diuretics to make weight , go find out what that means , it doesnt matter how much you outweigh an opponent if you are weight drained from training to make weigh-in weight , training to make weight is not the same as training to win , Canelo may very well fall into this when he begins training for the fight , we dont know until fight time when we can see the fight and if anything has surfaced in the meantime like diuretics or IV fluid infusions .

So what... isn't Pac just the smaller man hedging his bet against the much larger fighter? He was the money man in this fight, he doesn't owe Tony anything! If Tony didn't want it he didn't have to sign did he?

So No CWs dont hurt everybody only some , it depends on who and what weight they must make at the time , the individual circumstance rule the day .

I dont get how you guys are so rigid on a word , its like life is not like that but you guys just wrap up everything as the same deal , its not , each CW has its own set of dynamics bound by the individual fighter , that should be common sense but its obvious thats lacking here in kidsville .

This is awesome! You're an MD now! So in your expert opinion both of Pac's CW were wrong and Mayweather who is doing the exact same thing is okay. Whatever happened to "I fight fighters at their most comfortable weight"

[Frank Ducketts]

What happened to the "I fight fighters at their best weight"? The other guy signed the contract. Everyone here is a hypocrite. Those who defended Pac, and those who defend Floyd. But to be honest...who gives a **** what ANY of you armchairs think. You don't box or sign contracts so take your cry baby fanboyism and shove it up your *****!

[LoadedWraps]

Are we done exposing Manny yet?