Pac refused to fight this version of Cotto without a CW

[noStylez]

I feel embarrassed for your Reloaded you're making a complete fool of yourself like you always do. I'm no expert I'm just a fan of the sport like any fan casual or core we all have opinions but Fk man your logic is full of holes you're blinded by hate of a boxer and man love for another. Quit this thread now in fact I'm surprised it's still open.

[Reloaded]

And that's exactly what Manny was doing yet you hate him for it. Thanks for playing!

You dont get it , how many times do you need to be told its not the fact of the CW , its the circumstances and the result of draining the opponent because the evidence shows it , the fights showed it , the diuretics showed it , the opponents own statements show it , by you cant see any of it lol .

I dont hate Manny at all kid , show me where I attack his personal life , I talk only about his boxing , not like you idiots that start threads every day about anything you can hate on with Floyd , personal , relatives anything connected to Floyd you hate on , so dont give me your BS .

Why did Manny fight some WWs with CWs and others without , why force Cotto to 145 but Margo is ok at 150 , answer those 2 kid ? I gots lots more questions that you will run from .

I feel embarrassed for your Reloaded you're making a complete fool of yourself like you always do. I'm no expert I'm just a fan of the sport like any fan casual or core we all have opinions but Fk man your logic is full of holes you're blinded by hate of a boxer and man love for another. Quit this thread now in fact I'm surprised it's still open.

Your a Manny fanboy and self admitted know nothing about the sport , so in the real world all this CW stuff and IV Fluid infusions and Diuretics , fight night weights , training to make weight as opposed to training to win etc etc , it all goes over your head !! so how in hell can you have an opinion on whats right or wrong based on hype which is your knowledge bank ,

Debate the facts with facts or piss off and polish your Manny doll , because I havent lost a thing in this thread , the Pac fanboys are pathetic debaters with very little boxing knowledge , they come 10 at a time throw an insult some cartoons and their precious red k lol , and then run like chickens lol .

[Jack Napier]

you're gonna give yourself a heart attack soon old man :laugh:

[lfc19titles]

You dont get it , how many times do you need to be told its not the fact of the CW , its the circumstances and the result of draining the opponent because the evidence shows it , the fights showed it , the diuretics showed it , the opponents own statements show it , by you cant see any of it lol .

I dont hate Manny at all kid , show me where I attack his personal life , I talk only about his boxing , not like you idiots that start threads every day about anything you can hate on with Floyd , personal , relatives anything connected to Floyd you hate on , so dont give me your BS .

Why did Manny fight some WWs with CWs and others without , why force Cotto to 145 but Margo is ok at 150 , answer those 2 kid ? I gots lots more questions that you will run from .



Your a Manny fanboy and self admitted know nothing about the sport , so in the real world all this CW stuff and IV Fluid infusions and Diuretics , fight night weights , training to make weight as opposed to training to win etc etc , it all goes over your head !! so how in hell can you have an opinion on whats right or wrong based on hype which is your knowledge bank ,

Debate the facts with facts or piss off and polish your Manny doll , because I havent lost a thing in this thread , the Pac fanboys are pathetic debaters with very little boxing knowledge , they come 10 at a time throw an insult some cartoons and their precious red k lol , and then run like chickens lol .

why force cotto to 145, you see right here is you lying and spinning, manny was at 140, just beat ricky hatton, was the p4p number 1, cotto challenged manny and said he will go to 145 to fight manny as it was only 1 pound lighter than his normal 146 weight. manny accepted and the fight was on, what cotto did not want was to put his belt on the line as he still wanted to be champ incase he lost

why do you always lie about manny forcing cotto down when you know it was not the case?

Margarito was a career ww and asked arum for the manny fight, they fought at 150, what is wrong? 2 147 guys fighting at 154 dude

I will give you the cotto thing at 150, if manny wanted him, he should have moved up all though cotto just a few months before wanted a 150 cw fight vs margo

now onto floyd, time for you to admit some truths instead of ducking them

floyd said he does not force guys down weights and fights them at their best, true? yes

canelo wanted 154 yet floyd forced him down? true yes

time for you to admit it dude, if you accuse manny of using cw to gain an advantage or to drain guys then floyd is the same

you had a dig which had cw stuff with manny but removed it like a coward after floyd did the same

canelo said he is at his best at 154, cotto said at 145 he was at his best ever, difference is that cotto was not drained while floyd is trying to drain canelo

admit the truths, what is floyd, how is he not the same, in fact worse, he has been proven to be a hypocrite

[Twako]

You dont get it , how many times do you need to be told its not the fact of the CW , its the circumstances and the result of draining the opponent because the evidence shows it , the fights showed it , the diuretics showed it , the opponents own statements show it , by you cant see any of it lol .

I dont hate Manny at all kid , show me where I attack his personal life , I talk only about his boxing , not like you idiots that start threads every day about anything you can hate on with Floyd , personal , relatives anything connected to Floyd you hate on , so dont give me your BS .

Why did Manny fight some WWs with CWs and others without , why force Cotto to 145 but Margo is ok at 150 , answer those 2 kid ? I gots lots more questions that you will run from .



Your a Manny fanboy and self admitted know nothing about the sport , so in the real world all this CW stuff and IV Fluid infusions and Diuretics , fight night weights , training to make weight as opposed to training to win etc etc , it all goes over your head !! so how in hell can you have an opinion on whats right or wrong based on hype which is your knowledge bank ,

Debate the facts with facts or piss off and polish your Manny doll , because I havent lost a thing in this thread , the Pac fanboys are pathetic debaters with very little boxing knowledge , they come 10 at a time throw an insult some cartoons and their precious red k lol , and then run like chickens lol .

manny's first WW fight was against oscar. he had to GO UP 2 divisions having had only one, ONLY ONE fight at 135 prior to this. let that sink in. and he weighed really like a JWW at that time at ONLY 142. so you could say his first legit WW fight was cotto's.

tony's last fight prior to pac was at 154, but all had his career fights at WW prior to it. pac havent fought in that division yet, that's why they had a CW fight.

[lfc19titles]

you're gonna give yourself a heart attack soon old man :laugh:

this guy has been battered, I feel really bad now for humiliating him by bringing up this thread, I probably just made a mortal enemy in him

[ModernTalking]

The real Catchweight King...Mayweighter

[The Big Dunn]

manny's first WW fight was against oscar. he had to GO UP 2 divisions having had only one, ONLY ONE fight at 135 prior to this. let that sink in. and he weighed really like a JWW at that time at ONLY 142. so you could say his first legit WW fight was cotto's.

tony's last fight prior to pac was at 154, but all had his career fights at WW prior to it. pac havent fought in that division yet, that's why they had a CW fight.

reloaded is getting pounded and he should. that said, manny's last 2 titles are at CW. whether floyd beats canelo or not he has won all of his titles at non CW and didn't have a bogus title win like manny's JMW title.

the 152 CW will have the same affect on Canelo as the 145 CW did on cotto. If you said cotto was fine-same applies here. If you said it had an affect-which I did-same applies here.

[junior gong]

reloaded is getting pounded and he should. that said, manny's last 2 titles are at CW. whether floyd beats canelo or not he has won all of his titles at non CW and didn't have a bogus title win like manny's JMW title.

the 152 CW will have the same affect on Canelo as the 145 CW did on cotto. If you said cotto was fine-same applies here. If you said it had an affect-which I did-same applies here.

Shame Cotto didnt say the same thing...I think I'll go with his opinion. It didnt affect him, and I dont imagine for one minute that this will affect Canelo adversely either. You kind of kept it real there for the first time ever, so hope springs eternal...except for Reloaded. He is destined and by the looks of it resigned to his fate, but fair play, he seems to be going down playing the same song like the band on the titanic!

[VoodooChild]

Why did Manny fight some WWs with CWs and others without , why force Cotto to 145 but Margo is ok at 150 , answer those 2 kid ? I gots lots more questions that you will run from .

1) I think he only fought Miguel with a CW, it's negotiation tactics

2) He was playing hardball with Miguel, if team Cotto had held out longer they probably would have the gotten 147 but would have been squeezed more on the money , its just the negotiation process a small WW uses with his 2nd fight in the division.

3) The Marg fight was at JMW so I'm not sure how this is valid. Again it was a negotiation tactic, you know like the ones Mayweather uses.


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