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  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    Cotto's past his best is world's better than Alvarez' best. If Cotto is a has-been, Canelo is a never-will-be.
    If Mayweather-Alvarez is true, it's a C+/B- fight at the higest.

    If Pac-Cotto II at 150 is made, it's the same, C+/B-.

    But, if Pac-Cotto II is made at 147, that's a C-/C fight at the most.

    Pac-bradley is an A- fight for sure.

    What's your take on it???

    I have a feeling were going to see Mayweather-Alvarez at 154 and Pacquiao-Cotto II at 147. Said it as recently as a few days ago when everyone was saying "Mayweather-Cotto at 154 is all but signed".

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    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      Cotto's past his best is world's better than Alvarez' best. If Cotto is a has-been, Canelo is a never-will-be.
      Yeah. Like I said, Cotto is overrated. With posts like these, he's worlds more overrated than Cotto.

      It's frustrating that they just don't fight eachother now. Even if they do, and Canelo wins, everyone will just agree with what I'm saying now, that Cotto is past his best. And Cotto will have lost to another never-will-be, the first one was Margarito.

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      • No, Bradley is the #1 140lbs fighter in the world. How is that not a credible opponent for a small welterweight?

        Who should Pac fight? There is none out there more suitable than Bradley if we put Mayweather and Martinez out of the equation.

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        • Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
          Yeah. Like I said, Cotto is overrated. With posts like these, he's worlds more overrated than Cotto.

          It's frustrating that they just don't fight eachother now. Even if they do, and Canelo wins, everyone will just agree with what I'm saying now, that Cotto is past his best. And Cotto will have lost to another never-will-be, the first one was Margarito.
          i just can't see canelo being favored over Cotto.

          Can i lock you in for a bet for all your points straight up in case they do fight?

          i want first dibs.

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          • Over at mp8.ph, it says that sources have informed them that deals are being finalized for Mayweather/Canelo and Pac/Bradley.

            Looks like Floyd is piggybacking off the Mexican fanbase again.

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            • Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
              you counter with "who has canelo beaten?!"

              that's not the question dipsh|t. i never once said it's a better fight than Pacquiao/Bradley. Both fights are ****. neither guy DESERVES to fight May/Pac. THAT IS the point moron

              so again, who the **** has Bradley beaten that warrants a shot at Pacquiao. at least canelo has a ****ing fanbase. bradley has uh..
              Well he kind of answered you by saying Bradley resume>>>>>Canelo resume....Which BTW you didn't even try to argue so that says a lot.

              What exactly are you looking for? HOF names? P4P elite names? If so then Bradley doesn't have any. What he does have is a string of wins against top 3/5/10 fighters of his weight-class. He went across the pond to beat the #1 rank JWW in that opponent backyard. He beat two fighters who became top fighters in their respected division after losing Bradley.

              If you're looking for one or a couple standout wins. Then there isn't any...But, what Bradley has is a body of work that can't be denied. The same can't be said about Canelo now can it? Even Bradley lone win at WW against Luis Abregu is just as good as Alvarez best win. That's what's wrong with the Canelo fight.

              I guess this is about what type of fan you're. If you're PPV fans or match up fans. If you the former Canelo would be your pick, if you the latter Bradley is the choice.

              Bradley for Pac is around the same as Hatton for Floyd.
              Last edited by jrosales13; 01-30-2012, 03:51 PM.

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              • Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
                Good post then. I misunderstood you the first time. Yeah, Manny honestly has more heart than Mayweather to me. He loves a challenge. Mayweather doesn't care about his fans at all. Or his legacy. If he chose Canelo because of "drawing power", then he ducked Cotto once again. Cotto is th third biggest draw in the sport behind Manny and Mayweather. He's afraid of possibly losing. Canelo is a safe fight for him. He must have watched the Gomez fight. LoL. Gomez exposed the kid and was beating him up! I'll stick to supporting Manny because he takes risks. He'll fight anybody around his size.
                Agree, except Floyd did fight Mosley and Ortiz, when Pac fought way worse opposition going in.

                I was hoping that if it's not May-Pac, it's Mayweather-Cotto at 154 and Pacquiao-Bradley. Mayweather-Cotto at 154 would have been a B+ and Pac-Bradley would be an A-.

                I don't want to see Pac-Cotto II, because Manny is unwilling to fight Cotto at 154 lbs.

                If it's Floyd-Canelo, the only way Floyd has picked a better opponent than Manny is if Manny fights Cotto at 147 lbs, or if he fights Cotto at 150 than it's equal. That's it.

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                • Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
                  Don't even bother man, he's a mindless Cotto hater that disappears when you actually start debating with him.
                  What is there to debate about with a bunch of ****sucking and delusional dumb ass Puerto Rican Cotto fans? Nothing. I say what I gotta say and it ends there.

                  I'll debate with imdazed or any other non-puerto rican about Cotto cause at least I know they're not being driven by nationality. I don't waste my time on butt hurt PR Cotto stans.

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                  • Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                    Over at mp8.ph, it says that sources have informed them that deals are being finalized for Mayweather/Canelo and Pac/Bradley.
                    didnt these guys say Cotto was confirmed?

                    A lot of flip flopping on these "sources" during these negotiations.

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                    • I'm glad to see Bradley possibly get a Pacquiao fight, because the pac-worshipers have spent like 2 years talking about how much an overrated bum Bradley is and now they will spend months trying to make him out to be the greatest fighter next to Pacquiao in an attempt to glorify their demi-god hero.

                      I've really like Bradley for a couple years now and having the mindless legions of pacfart spending the next 4-5 months spamming about how amazing a selection of opponent he is will only help get him more recognition from casuals.

                      **** Pac and May...they don't give a **** about the fans.

                      Manny Pacquiao hanggang tae ka na lang.

                      War Bradley

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