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  • Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
    you counter with "who has canelo beaten?!"

    that's not the question dipsh|t. i never once said it's a better fight than Pacquiao/Bradley. Both fights are ****. neither guy DESERVES to fight May/Pac. THAT IS the point moron

    so again, who the **** has Bradley beaten that warrants a shot at Pacquiao. at least canelo has a ****ing fanbase. bradley has uh..
    Doesn't matter who I list because you'll list them as shot, green or overrated.

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    • Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
      who the hell has bradley beaten to get a shot at pacquiao? alexander? holt? really? smh
      Bradley is the #1 140lbs fighter in the world. Hes the best option out there disregarding the obvious: Mayweather and Martinez.

      Who did Canelo beat?

      Holt Peterson Alexander are all good wins. Even Junior Witter is a better win than anything Canelo holds.

      It needs to be judged within context. And in relation to the other options Bradley shines very bright.
      Last edited by Barry Halls; 01-30-2012, 03:42 PM.

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      • Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
        "Mayweather-Alvarez at 154. Damn....Both are C+ fights, maybe B- at the most."

        Who's a C level fighter? I only see one C level fighter between the four; and that's Alvarez. Cotto, MAyweather, and PAcquiao are all A level fighters.
        Pacquiao-Cotto II at 150 is a C+/B- fight. If it were at 154, it's a B+. Same ges for Floyd.

        Mayweather-Alvarez is a C+/B- fight at the most. Said it from day 1, Canelo should have fought Kirkland or Cotto first.

        I am not talking about the level of a certain fighter, just the grade that fight is. Pacquiao-Cotto II at 147 lbs is an A fight to you??????? Hell no. Neither is Floyd-Canelo, it's C+/B- at the most.

        If this is true, the only way Floyd actually picks a better option than Manny is if Pac-Cotto II at 147 is made. That's a C-/C fight. Cotto would be dropping to far down for that.

        If Pac fights Bradley, he picked the better opponent. If he fights Cotto at 150, it's about equal. And if he fights Cotto at 147, than he didn't.
        Last edited by 4Corners; 01-30-2012, 03:43 PM.

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        • NO way.........

          "Bradley is good but no way an A- fighter. I think they the same level. B area"

          NO they are not. How? Bradley has been around longer, he has been battle tested, and he has the better resume by far. Canelo still has his division to worry about. He hasn't proved anything and he got exposed against Gomez last summer. We all know why Mayweather chose him if it's true. He cherry picks his opponents. That's a fact! At least Manny will be in a real fight against a proven tough guy. This doesn't look good for Mayweathers legacy. He should be fighting Cotto. If it's about money, Cotto is the third biggest draw after Manny and Mayweather.

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          • Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
            I strongly disagree about Cotto winning but the fight will have to happen. If anything, Cotto is the overrated one. And I actually see Canelo stopping Cotto. Canelo is not a powerless Foreman(best win for Cotto at 154) or shot to pieces Mayorga, defenseless/injured Margarito. He's young, big, powerful, does not follow the same come forward Mexican tradition, has decent hand speed. Cotto is small, past his best which wasn't all that to begin with, his defense sucks, and he's slow, very chinny, can get hurt easily and start retreating.
            Cotto's past his best is world's better than Alvarez' best. If Cotto is a has-been, Canelo is a never-will-be.

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            • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              Cotto's past his best is world's better than Alvarez' best. If Cotto is a has-been, Canelo is a never-will-be.
              Don't even bother man, he's a mindless Cotto hater that disappears when you actually start debating with him.

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              • How does Bradley actually win against Manny~

                Don't bring up who he has fought, he is thought of as good fighter, his resume or how he is a great guy who is built like a brick shithouse.

                All that stuff before is hype talk and unimportant on fight night, for it to be such a great fight Bradley needs to have a great avenue to victory. So this should be easily explainable to those saying that.

                Canelo doesn't have an avenue to victory which is why that fight is soft, which I have no issue with people calling a spade a spade.

                So explain to me.

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                • Televisa > Mayweather.

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                  • Originally posted by Harry Balls View Post
                    Bradley is the #1 140lbs fighter in the world. Hes the best option out there disregarding the obvious: Mayweather and Martinez.

                    Who did Canelo beat?

                    Holt Peterson Alexander are all good wins. Even Junior Witter is a better win than anything Canelo holds.
                    unbelievable. alexander is a good win? even if that fight ended differently than it did, alexander is still a hype job who all of the sudden gets to fight all his fights in STL. can you say protected fighter? maidana will destroy Devon and you'll see how "good" that win was.

                    holt's a decent fighter but if you're gonna throw HOLT on a resume and use that to proclaim how good you are, good luck with that.

                    Canelo hasn't beaten **** to warrant a fight with Floyd. Keep deflecting the point I'm making:

                    BOTH FIGHTS ARE *****

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                    • I understand now.....

                      Good post then. I misunderstood you the first time. Yeah, Manny honestly has more heart than Mayweather to me. He loves a challenge. Mayweather doesn't care about his fans at all. Or his legacy. If he chose Canelo because of "drawing power", then he ducked Cotto once again. Cotto is th third biggest draw in the sport behind Manny and Mayweather. He's afraid of possibly losing. Canelo is a safe fight for him. He must have watched the Gomez fight. LoL. Gomez exposed the kid and was beating him up! I'll stick to supporting Manny because he takes risks. He'll fight anybody around his size.

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