Dissecting the 40 mil offer

[Mohammedini]

Mohammedini, you forgot to factor the live gate in.

Which if you average the prices for tickets 500 bucks and sell out a arena with 17000 seats.
That will make 8,5 mil in live gate.
By 50/50 you split it to 4,2½ mil.
4 mil to Top Rank, 4 mil To Floyd and GB.

How much of that will PAc get? 750.000?

[p4p-champ]

solution for mayweather is don't force it. leave it. he's not in a position to dictate the terms. let him fight canelo on may 5th, cinco de mayo. give alvarez what he wants and prove that he'll make the kind of money he claims he can make.

why am i not surprised that you'd rather see Floyd fight someone else.

You fools are worried about Dapidran getting his fair share of the purse in a Floyd fight, yet turn your backs when it comes to Arum and Koncz fleecing Manny from his hard earned money.

[brick wall]

stop making ****s up...realistically, this fight is poised to make around 2.5 million ppv buys and they will sell it at least $80 not 60-70. that's a whooping $200 million in ppv revenue plus gates, sponsors and international rights the fight could make $250 million in total revenue.

if pac will accept $40 million, floyd will get $80 million at least...a total injustice that *****s will try to justify.

[Larry the boss]

not sure i give a ****.2 rich b1tches crying over millions and millions of dollars.hell we fight for free in these streets and they wont fight for millions.**** em

[jrosales13]

As I said a couple of times on this tread, 50/50 means , 50/50 GB/Floyd and Top Rank.
Not Floyd or Pac
So for Top Rank it would equal a 900k buy rate if the Projected 1.8 gets fulfilled.

If average ticket cost 500 and sells 17 000 seats, that will be 8,5 mil.
Then split it in half and give PAc 40% of 4,2 mil.
WOW.

First of all just want to say not sure why GBP is needed in this event. But, that's another debate.

Anyways, it would be 50/50 Floyd and Pac. Floyd will pay a flat fee or are % -not sure what kind of deal they have- for their services. From his split. And, Pac will pay Arum 27% of what he makes from his split.

The Floyd-Oscar did more than an 18mil gate. I'm guess the tickets will cost just as much if not more so than that event tickets cost.

And, then you still have to add lots of more revenue. The only way that the 40mil guarantee is just as good if not better than the 50/50 split. Is if the event bombs for their standard. Doesn't do as good as they believe it will.

[lfc19titles]

you just don't understand

of course marquez got share of the ppv and gate

arum is contracted with pac, he is his promoter, you cannot cut him out. You are forgetting GB also getting a cut, guarantees are given by promoters as in insurance of them covering the costs and giving them a minimum no matter what

golden boy is floyds while top rank is pacs

you are looking at 1.8m-2m ppv buys at around 60 dollars each which will be around 108-120m in ppv revenue.

Now you are discounting the siite fee and gate which will do huge amounts, at least 15 million

then you have the world revenue outside of usa which again will bring a lot, then the after fight sales, which makes money for fighters big time, then sponsors and so on

One more important point

floyd said he wants around 60-40, which is why he is offering pac a flat 40m fee, what does that tell you? why would he give pac more than 50 or equal, he is offering less

the fighters at 50-50 will earn more than 40m each, believe it. floyd wants the lions share of the money, hence him offering 40m

you are also forgetting the money hbo takes which is about 50 percent

look sponsors, gate and ppv revenue, as well as worldwide rev and after fight you are looking at over 120m being generated easy for this fight

at worst 40m flat fee is 50-50 if the ppv bombs which it will not, i promise you if they ever fight and its 50-50, both guys will earn around 50m each from it

remember be realistic, the fight will do 2m ppv buys at least for more than 60 dollars, floyd is just trying to short change pac by offering 40m

[deliveryman]

When I started to think about it, the 40 mil offer is better then 50/50 for PAc.

Here is why.
Lets say the ppv makes 1.8 mil buys at 65-70 $.
Thats 63 mil when you split it 50/50.



When Pac carries a PPV they get around a 1.3 mil ppv buys at most and 100% of the revenues is kept within TR and yet Pac gets less then 30 mil all and all.

Now if you split the it 50/50 with GB and MAyweather it would equal as them getting 900k of the ppv buys.
If Pac gets his usual ppv share from TR, how the **** will get anything close to 40 mil?
From 900k?

The highest PAc has gotten from a ppv share is something around 20-25 mil and even some of it gets scammed out of his hands by Bob Arum and Michael Koncz.

the 40 mil could be a way to cut Bob Arum out of the juicy Pie.
Ofc Bob gets some from Pac's flat rate but still, nothing close to the ppv.

It would be a big **** you to Bob and PAc gets more money then he has gotten in his entire career.

(Don't move this tread banstick plz.
It's impossible to discuss this on the super tread)

Sorry it isn't that simple. It's usually structured in a way where once a certain PPV number is exceeded the percentage of each PPV is significantly increased.

For example:

Fighters earn 40% of PPV revenue on first 1,000,000 buys.
Fighters earn 60% of PPV revenue after 2,000,000 buys
Fighters earn 85% of PPV revenue after 3,000,000 buys.

Before Top Rank's cut and various other expenses chances are Manny would earn far more than $40M.

[Larry the boss]

id fight floyd and manny at the same time for 40 million

[johncods]

Holy **** stop making excuses for that ****. It should be 50/50 period.

[Larry the boss]

Holy **** stop making excuses for that ****. It should be 50/50 period.

id fight you for 50 cents and some red kool aid