Dissecting the 40 mil offer

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Mohammedini
    Malaakh
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Apr 2011
    • 1096
    • 103
    • 252
    • 8,050

    #11
    Originally posted by oc9979
    I don't see where the promoter make up for the expenses they had for the fight?
    The full PPV can not be divide to the fighter because the cable company has to make money out of it as well
    Exactly!!! People are naive enough to think the fighters get all of the PPV revenue.
    That is why getting outraged at 40 mil is illogical

    Comment

    • edgarg
      Honest BoxingScene posts
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Dec 2004
      • 11045
      • 547
      • 54
      • 39,228

      #12
      Originally posted by oc9979
      I don't see where the promoter make up for the expenses they had for the fight?
      The full PPV can not be divide to the fighter because the cable company has to make money out of it as well
      You just saved me the trouble of putting Mohhamadini in his place. His posts are pure, vicious Arum-hating and Pacquiao-denigrating. The PPV/Cable people get 50% of the total PPV.This has been published and discussed dozens of times...yet Mr M has never seen it, or doesn't want to.and that's obvious.

      Whilst we're at it, with all Mr. M's "supposing", why not suppose that the fight could do 2 mill (and upwards) at say $70 a PPV, and that every large sporting goods company would be competing for advertising spots?? Regardless of what the Boxingscene boxing "experts" might shout, the world has made MannyP into a global icon, and this fight should be a huge moneyspinner.

      Comment

      • tomhawq
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Jan 2008
        • 4194
        • 586
        • 183
        • 8,620

        #13
        these clowns seem to have forgotten that pbf (pu55y boy floyd) wanted 70/30 which is a lot worse than 50/50. what can you say about that? pbf is no different from arum. as simple as that. canelo backed away because pbf won't give him the kind of money he wants. marquez made four times the amount of money he made in his fight with mayweather in the jmm/pac 3.

        mayweather is just another snake with different skin.

        solution for mayweather is don't force it. leave it. he's not in a position to dictate the terms. let him fight canelo on may 5th, cinco de mayo. give alvarez what he wants and prove that he'll make the kind of money he claims he can make.

        Last edited by tomhawq; 01-29-2012, 11:53 AM.

        Comment

        • Mohammedini
          Malaakh
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Apr 2011
          • 1096
          • 103
          • 252
          • 8,050

          #14
          Originally posted by edgarg
          You just saved me the trouble of putting Mohhamadini in his place. His posts are pure, vicious Arum-hating and Pacquiao-denigrating. The PPV/Cable people get 50% of the total PPV.This has been published and discussed dozens of times...yet Mr M has never seen it, or doesn't want to.and that's obvious.

          Whilst we're at it, with all Mr. M's "supposing", why not suppose that the fight could do 2 mill (and upwards) at say $70 a PPV, and that every large sporting goods company would be competing for advertising spots?? Regardless of what the Boxingscene boxing "experts" might shout, the world has made MannyP into a global icon, and this fight should be a huge moneyspinner.
          C'mon put me in my place plz!
          So knowing this you think 50/50 is better for PAc?

          Arum hate?
          Don't tell me you are a Arum defender.
          I get it he promotes your god but plz, don't you see how he is Stealing money from him.
          I feel sorry for Pac.

          How naive are you to claim that you know these facts yet you think 50/50 is better the 40 mil when he clearly will get less from50/50.

          As I said a 50/50 split would mean 900k ppv buys each if it gets 1.8 mil ppv buys in simple terms......
          Ofc as the guy said the Cable company gets a share out of it, then Top Rank takes a big chunk and gives Pac his standard ppv share.

          Do the math...

          Comment

          • borgata
            Interim Champion
            Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
            • Jan 2010
            • 955
            • 67
            • 202
            • 7,161

            #15
            Originally posted by Mohammedini
            C'mon put me in my place plz!
            So knowing this you think 50/50 is better for PAc?

            Arum hate?
            Don't tell me you are a Arum defender.
            I get it he promotes your god but plz, don't you see how he is Stealing money from him.
            I feel sorry for Pac.

            How naive are you to claim that you know these facts yet you think 50/50 is better the 40 mil when he clearly will get less from50/50.

            As I said a 50/50 split would mean 900k ppv buys each if it gets 1.8 mil ppv buys in simple terms......
            Ofc as the guy said the Cable company gets a share out of it, then Top Rank takes a big chunk and gives Pac his standard ppv share.

            Do the math...
            ok ill bite. 1.8 mill/2 = 900k. 900k for hbo and 900k to floyd and pac (with an even split) so 450k to floyd and 450k to pac. 450k x $60 (ppv price)= $27 million now add in the gate, guarantees, sponsors and yes, they stand to make over 40 mill.

            Comment

            • jrosales13
              undisputed champion
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Sep 2008
              • 32632
              • 739
              • 763
              • 40,023

              #16
              Well Arum is still going to get a cut with the 40mil guarantee.

              So Arum is going to get a cut from Pac regardless if Pac takes Floyd offer or gets the 50/50 split.

              Floyd offering the 40mil guarantee is banking the fight doing more than 1.8mil buys. Pac saying no to that means Pac is banking on the same thing.

              You also got to add the other revenue that's coming in, like close circuit, gate, sponsors, international rights, tv replay, etc etc.

              It is safe to say with 50/50 they both would get more than 40mil

              Comment

              • Mohammedini
                Malaakh
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Apr 2011
                • 1096
                • 103
                • 252
                • 8,050

                #17
                Originally posted by borgata
                ok ill bite. 1.8 mill/2 = 900k. 900k for hbo and 900k to floyd and pac (with an even split) so 450k to floyd and 450k to pac. 450k x $60 (ppv price)= $27 million now add in the gate, guarantees, sponsors and yes, they stand to make over 40 mill.
                Okay what I meant was 50/50 with GB,/Floyd and top Rank.
                PAc'll get standared ppv share from a ppv that makes 900k in compraison to his other ppvs with TR.
                CAtch my drift? you get me?
                Ofc Floyd'll make more then Pac because he retains independence and is on favorable terms with his co-promoters gb , botch which Pac completely lacks.

                Comment

                • Cardinal Buck
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1757
                  • 75
                  • 186
                  • 8,133

                  #18
                  Mohammedini, you forgot to factor the live gate in.

                  Comment

                  • Mohammedini
                    Malaakh
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1096
                    • 103
                    • 252
                    • 8,050

                    #19
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Well Arum is still going to get a cut with the 40mil guarantee.

                    So Arum is going to get a cut from Pac regardless if Pac takes Floyd offer or gets the 50/50 split.

                    Floyd offering the 40mil guarantee is banking the fight doing more than 1.8mil buys. Pac saying no to that means Pac is banking on the same thing.

                    You also got to add the other revenue that's coming in, like close circuit, gate, sponsors, international rights, tv replay, etc etc.

                    It is safe to say with 50/50 they both would get more than 40mil
                    As I said a couple of times on this tread, 50/50 means , 50/50 GB/Floyd and Top Rank.
                    Not Floyd or Pac
                    So for Top Rank it would equal a 900k buy rate if the Projected 1.8 gets fulfilled.

                    If average ticket cost 500 and sells 17 000 seats, that will be 8,5 mil.
                    Then split it in half and give PAc 40% of 4,2 mil.
                    WOW.

                    Comment

                    • immortal tech
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1444
                      • 65
                      • 129
                      • 7,763

                      #20
                      you forgot to add the 60 million gate from the temporary stadium

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP