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  • #61
    Originally posted by onechance87 View Post
    Well if ur a star,You should have fans like donaire,canelo,juanma ect.
    Why dont fans support him?He has a gold medal,Has power yet the
    cubans dont support him.Hes fought a couple of times in miami and
    didnt really get support.Just a last week rigo fought for his firzt
    championship and only a few hundred fans were there?I'm no hater
    just being real,They are no stars.Cuban fans are the worst fans ever.
    You don't live in Cuba, you don't know cubans, so why you think that cubans are the worst fan ever? Know this, if Arum, GB, Don King, etc were allowed to make or promote fights in Cuba, or the cuban people could travel to USA for any cuban card fight, you'd see if we are, or not the worst fans ever.
    In USA the cuban fans are a few compare to the USA fans, MEX fans or PR fans.

    You can't ask for a massive support from cuban fans like mexicans, puertoricans, etc do, because the cuban profesional boxing only have 5 years in the making since Gamboa, Solis, Barthelemy, Lara and the new ones that defected after them.

    Yes, we had Casamayor, Diosbelys, Gonzalez, Castillo, Gomez in the past, but you can't rebuild a strong cuban fan base, with a few soldiers in around 15 years, before the new cuban boxers wave arrived.

    We are talking about virtually of +50 years missed in the profesional boxing because Castro. The cuban fan base can't be rebuild in only 5 years and is more difficult to rebuild if the promoters are not doing their jobs.

    If the promoters do their jobs that is supposed to do, if the cuban boxers were allow to fight as pro like the other boxers of the World, the fan base, not only the cubans, would be huge for the cuban boxers.

    By the way, I'm not talking about Canelo, Donaire, Juanma. I'm talking about your ****** opinion when you said that Gamboa won't be star because he is 30 yo and has not a fan base. You are forgetting or you don't know, that to be a boxing star is about skills, technique, wins, boxing specialists's opinions and fan's opinions.

    You are just an ignorant cuban hater.
    Last edited by Caballete333; 01-29-2012, 05:20 AM.

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    • #62
      put gamboa in miami and hel sell out right now , is the same thing with puerto ricans they dont sell out outside of new york maaaybe only cotto because hes already famous and do any mexicans sell out in new york of course not lets be reallllllllllllllll.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Caballete333 View Post
        Know this, if Arum, GB, Don King, etc were allowed to make or promote fights in Cuba, or the cuban people could travel to USA for any cuban card fight, you'd see if we are, or not the worst fans ever. In USA the cuban fans are a few compare to the USA fans, MEX fans or PR fans.

        You can't ask for a massive support from cuban fans like mexicans, puertoricans, etc do, because the cuban profesional boxing only have 5 years in the making since Gamboa, Solis, Barthelemy, Lara and the new ones that defected after them.

        We are talking about virtually of +50 years missed in the profesional boxing because Castro. The cuban fan base can't be rebuild in only 5 years and is more difficult to rebuild if the promoters are not doing their jobs.
        Originally posted by definido7 View Post
        put gamboa in miami and hel sell out right now , is the same thing with puerto ricans they dont sell out outside of new york maaaybe only cotto because hes already famous and do any mexicans sell out in new york of course not lets be reallllllllllllllll.
        All some very good points.

        Many people outside the Cuban community don't understand that the influx of Cuban athletic talent (or any other talent) is stifled by Castro's communist government, which has been in place since 1959. It's easy to overestimate the Cuban population in the United States, since Cubans are disproportionately represented in politics, entertainment, education and business. There are only approximately 1.5 million Cubans in the U.S. (!). About one million live in Florida. That's a tiny segment of the U.S. population.

        There are almost 32 million Mexican-Americans and millions more Mexican immigrants living in the United States. Nearly four million Puerto Ricans live on the island and over four million live stateside. Throw in the fact that Puerto Ricans can travel freely to-and-from the U.S. and you have a potential eight million person fan base. Although there are approximately 11 million inhabitants of Cuba, they cannot travel freely. And, living in a communist system, they have no money. They are non-existent when discussing monetary representation in the U.S.

        These facts must be considered when discussing the perceived lack of interest in Cuban boxers, within the United States, by their own people. If a scientific study was conduced, it might even be found that Cubans are actually more supportive of their athletes than people of other backgrounds! lol

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        • #64
          Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
          You have a point with the bold, but it doesn't explain everything. I agree, it's the reason for the Lopez-Gamboa thing. But Alvarez isn't going to be allowed to fight anyone that'll derail his hype-train, least of all a Cuban. Donaire isn't as easily explained. Nonito isn't Manny. If the Cuban fan base is viable, then it's just as strong as the Pinoy fan base, at least with regards to Donaire.
          i always go the impression they were trying to get donaire to ride on the tail of the manny pacquiao comet. ie trying to hype and make money off him due to his similarities with manny. imagine when pacquiao hangs up the gloves, a large portion of that fanbase is likely to switch over to donaire i should have thought.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by onechance87 View Post
            Well if ur a star,You should have fans like donaire,canelo,juanma ect.
            Why dont fans support him?He has a gold medal,Has power yet the
            cubans dont support him.Hes fought a couple of times in miami and
            didnt really get support.Just a last week rigo fought for his firzt
            championship and only a few hundred fans were there?I'm no hater
            just being real,They are no stars.Cuban fans are the worst fans ever.
            i don't know so much about the cubans living in the states, but i most of them live away from the big fight centres, and there's not that many of them anyway.
            i'll tell you what though, cubans living in cuba are very good fans, percentage wise i'd say they have more intelligent fans who really understand and appreciate boxing than anywhere else i've been.
            also, there's a lot of people in cuba who watch all the hbo etc for free via cheeky satellite hook ups, obviously they don't get counted in the ppv figures (nor make the networks/promoters etc any money!).

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            • #66
              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
              If a scientific study was conduced, it might even be found that Cubans are actually more supportive of their athletes than people of other backgrounds! lol
              yeah, it is necessary to get away from the idea that 'supporting' a fighter = how much money people are prepared to pay into the coffers of the promoters/tv networks etc. ESPECIALLY when talking about cuba. there's some pretty massive fanbase for gamboa et al in cuba, but not a penny is likely to come outta there in support of him.

              i get that we're talking about why the cuban pros are not as marketable and therefore not getting the match ups they deserve, but i think to assume that is caused by lack of interest from fans is incorrect. financial support from the fans, yeah.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by frosty-g View Post
                i don't know so much about the cubans living in the states, but i most of them live away from the big fight centres, and there's not that many of them anyway.
                i'll tell you what though, cubans living in cuba are very good fans, percentage wise i'd say they have more intelligent fans who really understand and appreciate boxing than anywhere else i've been.
                also, there's a lot of people in cuba who watch all the hbo etc for free via cheeky satellite hook ups, obviously they don't get counted in the ppv figures (nor make the networks/promoters etc any money!).
                I was born in Cuba, but I've never been back. I didn't even really grow up around Cubans. All I know is what I've seen and read, and what I've experienced from limited exposure to Cubans in Miami/southern Florida. I certainly get the impression that Cubans on the island are rabid sports fans. Also, Cubans get crazy when talking sports (or almost anything else they care about). I've seen this for myself, and on television with footage of "La Esquina Caliente." I always get a laugh out of that stuff. lol

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                  I was born in Cuba, but I've never been back. I didn't even really grow up around Cubans. All I know is what I've seen and read, and what I've experienced from limited exposure to Cubans in Miami/southern Florida. I certainly get the impression that Cubans on the island are rabid sports fans. Also, Cubans get crazy when talking sports (or almost anything else they care about). I've seen this for myself, and on television with footage of "La Esquina Caliente." I always get a laugh out of that stuff. lol
                  yeah they are pretty comical, in a very good way, when they get talking (maybe shouting is a better word!) about sport. real nice to see and be a part of.
                  baseball has more popularity, in a way that football (soccer) does in europe, but boxing is very big and because of the political stance against professional boxing, the population- men women and children- tend to have a pretty good understanding of what the sport is about, which i have a lot of respect for.

                  something i found when i was researching for a thing i wrote about the cuban school of boxing was this- "Organised Crime in Boxing 1983-1985, Final Report of the State of New Jersey Commission of Investigation".
                  the recommendations of this commission are to resolve basically what i think most people would agree are the bad points about professional boxing, but in fact actually by banning professional boxing. rather similar to what a certain leader of a small caribbean island did back in 1962...

                  the arguments against professional boxing are pretty much the same as what the cubans had against it, the only noticeable difference being that cuba actually took action. the document i mentioned is kicking about online somewhere and is rather long but it's easy to just pick out the relevant bits.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by onechance87 View Post
                    Bullshlt.Theres a reason they dont have fights in florida and its cause
                    yall dont support them.They always have to give away tickets
                    for free and yall still dont come out and support lol
                    STFU, puñal joto de mierda. You know nothing. STFU and learn.

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