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  • crold1
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    #31
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    That's what I think he's doing.

    By making a stink about fighting in Canada he might get Bute to sweeten the pot a little.
    Why would Bute pay more for a guy no one really wants to pay to see? If Showtime wants to ante up, that's different. Bute shouldn't give up a dime and doesn't have to. Economically, he holds the cards and with foreign TV revenue could probably make more with Froch...

    ...in an eons more promising action fight.

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      #32
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      He left haymon too.
      thanks for the correction. I'm about as ******ed as Dirrell right now. dumping Haymon was a terrible move.

      but

      maybe it was because his brother would probably never have faced Andre Ward. isn't Anthony his mandatory? too bad for him because Haymon fighters don't fight each other

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      • crold1
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        #33
        Originally posted by rey guey
        thanks for the correction. I'm about as ******ed as Dirrell right now. dumping Haymon was a terrible move.

        but

        maybe it was because his brother would probably never have faced Andre Ward. isn't Anthony his mandatory? too bad for him because Haymon fighters don't fight each other
        Don't believe Ward is with Haymon.

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        • -Kev-
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          #34
          Originally posted by crold1
          It remains to be seen what leverage he has without Haymon. He's not even rated by the IBF right now. If he wants to press for a Ward mando, he's positioned to do it after his brother. Froch-Bute is guaranteed action and Froch. Dirrell ain't. Hopefully, he just cleared the way for the better fight to get made.
          Well good luck to them if they don't land on Showtime or HBO, cause this is one viewer they won't get live. I will of course download their fight from the trading block.

          Good luck to Bute, he's under contract with Showtime(correct me I'm wrong) so Showtime pays him, meaning he has to fight who Showtime agrees with. And right now they're not agreeing with Froch.

          Maybe for you the better fight is Bute vs Froch. But IMO Dirrell vs Bute is better. Froch should instead get a win or two, because right now he's coming off a loss.

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            #35
            Originally posted by crold1
            Why would Bute pay more for a guy no one really wants to pay to see? If Showtime wants to ante up, that's different.
            Because Showtime has said no to a Carl Froch matchup. If Bute wants their money (and to get the fight he owes them over with) it has to be Dirrell.

            Entertainment is also in the eye of the beholder. Dirrell's fight with Froch was ugly but he was dazzling in the Abraham fight in my opinion.

            That said, Bute is certainly free to pursue Froch without Showtime's backing. And it seems that's what he might do.

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              #36
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Well good luck to them if they don't land on Showtime or HBO, cause this is one viewer they won't get live. I will of course download their fight from the trading block.

              Good luck to Bute, he's under contract with Showtime(correct me I'm wrong) so Showtime pays him, meaning he has to fight who Showtime agrees with. And right now they're not agreeing with Froch.

              Maybe for you the better fight is Bute vs Froch. But IMO Dirrell vs Bute is better. Froch should instead get a win or two, because right now he's coming off a loss.
              He's coming off a loss to the best fighter in class and ran the whole gauntlet of the six, after two wars with Pascal and Taylor. He is a proven action commodity. Dirrell is spotty in that sense to say the least. It's easily the better, more entertaining option.

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                #37
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Because Showtime has said no to a Carl Froch matchup. If Bute wants their money (and to get the fight he owes them over with) it has to be Dirrell.

                Entertainment is also in the eye of the beholder. Dirrell's fight with Froch was ugly but he was dazzling in the Abraham fight.

                That said, Bute is certainly free to pursue Froch without Showtime's backing. And it seems that's what he might do.
                Dirrell's had other ugly fights. There are indications Showtime could be drawn back for Froch under the right circumstances. Let's hope so. I want to see Bute with someone who we KNOW will bring it. Froch is as pure a warrior as the game has. If he wants to keep fighting toughies for a while longer, he's earned it.

                Let Dirrell go prove he can put some asses in seats and earn a mando like other barely marketable types have to after his lengthy layoff.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by crold1
                  Dirrell's had other ugly fights. There are indications Showtime could be drawn back for Froch under the right circumstances. Let's hope so. I want to see Bute with someone who we KNOW will bring it. Froch is as pure a warrior as the game has. If he wants to keep fighting toughies for a while longer, he's earned it.

                  Let Dirrell go prove he can put some asses in seats and earn a mando like other barely marketable types have to after his lengthy layoff.


                  froch really doesnt turn the heat up like he used to any more

                  he tries to box


                  i have little doubt he'd try and box with a puncher like bute

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by New England
                    froch really doesnt turn the heat up like he used to any more

                    he tries to box


                    i have little doubt he'd try and box with a puncher like bute
                    He came on as hard as he could late with Ward and Johnson was a war. I agree he tries to box more, but it's still fun to watch. Seriously, from a betting perspective, on paper the wager of which pair would make a better FIGHT is a no-brainer.

                    Dirrell and Froch are both guys who can push and possibly beat Bute for different reasons. Personally much rather watch Froch try if Ward-Bute can't happen now.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by crold1
                      He's not even rated by the IBF right now.
                      Neither is Froch.

                      The alphabet soup rankings are meaningless anyway. Real boxing fans know who the best guys in the division are. Dirrell's performances in the Super Six show that he is one of them.

                      If you want to say that Froch is more deserving and more of an action fighter I won't argue that point. His resume is beyond reproach.
                      Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 01-27-2012, 11:25 PM.

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