First off. i dont and will not hate on Cotto. Hes a warrior. One of my fav. The point i was making was for the other guy. If you are asking about the CW@145...I just wanna add that at that time the waters were still being tested @ 147 Manny was in the process of tying to find his comfort zone and at the same time fight top quality guys. like Cotto. Cotto weighed 146his last fight before Manny. So to insure he wouldnt put on to much more weight on fight night after the official weigh in the wanted to have cut off. It wasnt to much to ask for being Cotto weighed 1lb more in his last fight that he won.
Now Manny knows his cut off and he wont go up to 154 again. this was before any Cotto deal was thought about. IMO Cotto should fight Floyd. I hope he does and i hope he stops him too. I dont wanna see cotto Manny2 ...
The fact that you guys have to explain each time Manny wanted it a catchweight doesn't add anything to it's credibility. Manny was fighting for Cotto's title, he asked the champ to move down to 145 for what reason? Because as you say Manny was still "new" to the division, he didn't do it when he fought Diaz. Or when he moved to 130 why did he have to for Cotto? And you guys saying "it was only 1 or two pounds." Well if its ONLY one or two pounds then why even ask for a catchweight if it doesn't make a difference? You guys can't have it both ways, its one or the other.
I'm not even saying Cotto was drained at 145, but what I do think and what Manny's team obviously think is that Cotto at 150+ >>>>> 145/147 or whatever catchweight Manny wants. My God, Cotto's best strength is his size over Manny, making him lose 7 pounds takes that away. Also it wasn't like Cotto went to Manny, Arum said we can work with these 4 guys and Manny chose Cotto. Why? Because of the money nothing more, but only if he fights him at 147? As if Cotto is entitled to make things easy for Manny, which is exactly what they want. Manny just has to look good that's all that matters, Cotto said **** you.
The reason he can say that now and not before is because he was under contract, now he can't be bossed around and he's letting people know it. Manny isn't necessarily Cotto's biggest payday, but because Arum refuses to do business with anyone else Manny's biggest payday is Cotto's. Even if Manny gets like 80/20 for Bradley they aren't getting the same PPV buys as Cotto even if people have seen it before. Manny doesn't have the pull he thought he did on Cotto because Arum isn't there to pull the strings.
I hope he does fight Floyd at jr middle. However It seems like you have no idea what that would insinuate. Floyd willing to fight a champion at his weight class while Pacman is to scared too, LOL!! Dummy!!
Yeah like Hatton and Marquez. They are obviously in their own best weight classes.
Cotto can sit back and smile. He does not need to go below 154 as Mayweather's options are limited at 147. Manny has already convincingly beaten Cotto so why revisit that? Cotto:Mayweather May 5th 2012 @154, and Pacquiao: ? June 9th at 147.
this is what i mean when i say boxing is becoming more bull**** than not----floyd once again is willing to fight you at your best, with the exception of jmm as far as weight is c0ncerned but let's be honest folks---the only reason floyd fought jmm is because to strike fear in manny, which is totally did imo--floyd thoroughly outboxed jmm and made it look easy--he didn't even really go for the ko because he didn't have to--he showed manny how to dominate the kid without throwing sloppy shots at him and wobbling all over the ring---just imagine what he'll do to manny--floyd utterly destroys manny-and in easy fashion like he always said he would and always knew he would and still knows he will and is going to---
manny has given himnself the advantage in his last 5 fights--just pay attention closely people--and he's going to try to do it again with cotto if the fight does commence--when will you all wake up and smell the coffee?lol
floyd not only said anything above 140 pounds is ww, but he never said he would come in at 144 pounds against marqueznot once--he was not going to drain himself like cotto and de la hoya did, which was oscar's fault by the way, not manny's--i give manny full credit for that win against oscar--trust me guys---
manny physically drained cotto, clottey, mosley, margs, and tried to overgain jmm which backfired on him, to say the least--lol
meanwhile, floyd did make jmm defend his jr ww titles against him when they fought--all jmm was, was a tuneup, not even for manny, but for floyd to retone and polish his already brilliant skills--and show people why he stands alone in that department--manny will never be as skilled as floyd, nor will cotto, margs, shane, bradley, khan, canelo, and whoever--
which leads me to my next point--lol--believe it or not-
floyd, once again showing why he reigns supreme in the p4p fiasco---he is willing to go up toi 154, even though he's only fought there once and didn't even come in over 150 pounds when he fought a healthier fighter in oscar--he is now willing to go up against miguel at 154lbs, while manny is politicing 1nce again to give himself the advantage against another fighter not named mayweather---manny will never fight martinez, not even at 150 pounds--he never wanted to fight floyd--
and for all you dumbasses on here claiming that floyd ducked cotto years ago, shame on you all--cotto ducked floyd at 140 and 147---and he did so through arum--because arum never wanted to put cotto in there with floyd--not once---he didn't care about margarito because he knew floyd would have disposed of him easily and it wouldn't have ass-hurt bobbo at all because cotto was his rising progidy--but floyd was his masterpiece---his top dog--his greatest fighter--and he knew nobody would have beaten floyd and would have been dominated by him--especially the gatti--floyd mayweather jr.lol---
manny dominated cotto, i do agree--but his win is tainted by the fact that he gained a title fighting 2 lbs under the ww limit--even though anything above 140 is really considered ww, that only applies to non sanctioned and non title fights---no diamond belts, no nothing--
manny is a fraud and floyd will expose him so bad when he finds the balls to fight floyd---
anyway, i wouldn't mind either fight, but only at 154 pounds, no 150 pounds, nothing under that as well--floyd, will kill cotto and manny--so it doesn't matter anyway--
martinez just needs to wait a little longer and keep trashing these cats and he'll get his chance at floyd and he'll have his ass handed to him also--don't worry--
Yeah like Hatton and Marquez. They are obviously in their own best weight classes.
hatton won a title at ww idiot--hatton started his professional career at 140 lbs whereas floyd is one of the smallest ww's in history--hatton has always been bigger than floyd---and hatton publicly ducked floyd when floyd fought at 140 lbs...do your homework assclown-lol---marquez was a tuneup fight--nothing more--
floyd fought the number 2 p4p fighter in his comeback fight and it was a tuneup--and he trated marquez like an amateur fighter--manny stands no chance--
floyd defended his title against hatton--not the other way around--it's not like he forced hatton to defend his jr ww titles against him ****er-lol
get your mind right punk-lol
had hatton fought floyd in 2005--he would have been killed by floyd--and you know it---floyd bashed gatti and neither cotto, hatton, nor arum wanted any part of that monster--not a single piece--
Mayweather will go to 154 for Cotto? But he can't go to 154 for Martinez? Martinez has to come down to 150 if he wants Mayweather, yet Mayweather says Pac fights weight drained opponents at catchweights and he doesn't. da ****kk?
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