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  • Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
    The point is going up in weight. If Cotto wants Manny he has to go to Manny. This was made clear months before this rematch hype talk. That Manny wasnt fighting over147. I like Cotto. and i think the fight is Floyd/Cotto to be made. But to call someone scared for not adjusting his weight after he has already did so on a number of occasions and decided before Cotto rematch talk not to do it again is preposterous. No fear.
    STOP, JUST STOP IT RIGHT NOW!!! i wasnt gonna comment on this thread but i have to cut u off real quick b4 u start believing what ur sayin... 1st of all...cottos name was brought up by arum and pacs team for the rematch hence pac wanting to fight cotto!! dont get it twisted cuz even his wife said pac wants cotto and at the time cotto said the rematch wasnt even being discussed by him that he would decide after the holidays.

    2nd point i want to make: cotto didnt say " pac fears me " he simply said " if he fought clottey and marg at 150, y not me? what is his fear with me? " he didnt directly say pac was scared of him, he simply asked "what is pacs fear with me"

    now, that being said...carry on..but as u carry on with ur conversations plz dont play telephone and switch up the story thank you!
    Last edited by nv__; 01-26-2012, 01:41 PM.

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    • Mayweather vs Cotto at 154 good fight I hope he reaches a deal with team Mayweather for a May 5 fight

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      • good for cotto,he's in the driving seat time

        150 and above or nothing

        floyd vs cotto and big **** you to arum

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        • Originally posted by nv__ View Post
          STOP, JUST STOP IT RIGHT NOW!!! i wasnt gonna comment on this thread but i have to cut u off real quick b4 u start believing what ur sayin... 1st of all...cottos name was brought up by arum and pacs team for the rematch hence pac wanting to fight cotto!! dont get it twisted cuz even his wife said pac wants cotto and at the time cotto said the rematch wasnt even being discussed by him that he would decide after the holidays.

          2nd point i want to make: cotto didnt say " pac fears me " he simply said " if he fought clottey and marg at 150, y not me? what is his fear with me? " he didnt directly say pac was scared of him, he simply asked "what is pacs fear with me"

          now, that being said...carry on..but as u carry on with ur conversations plz dont play telephone and switch up the story thank you!
          Your problem is that you think whats said in the media is the full story.

          Let me guess, you probably also fell for those 2 tweets right?

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          • Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
            Well I am just guessing it'd be at 154. Cotto publicly said Floyd has no problem going to 154, but yeah. And it's a little unfair to bring Sergio into the equation, when Manny first demanded Sergio make 150, than flipped and said only at 147.

            But I agree with you that Arum and Pac will probably offer more money, wanting the rematch with Cotto, and we'll probably see Mayweather-Alvarez and Pacquiao-Cotto II.

            And I was NEVER a fan of the "leftover" talk either, but Floyd would go to 154. Leftovers is bulls**t and just because Floyd talked s**t about Manny and said that, some people really took that to heart, which is laughable. Floyd always talks s**t and people read too far into it to be honest. I mean, do people really think Floyd considers Manny a crappy fighter???

            Cotto is past his prime-still good. Pretty much the same guy he was in 09' when he fought Manny. If Floyd fights him at 154, he gets his due for that win, but Manny STILL gets more because he did it first. It's the same thing with Hatton. Manny gets his due for beating Hatton, but Floyd gets more because he did it first.

            If it's not Mayweather-Pacquiao, than it better be made for NOV or DEC. And in the meantime, we better see Mayweather-Cotto at 154 and Pacquiao-Bradley.

            Manny or Floyd:

            Cotto at 154: B+
            Cotto at 152: B
            Cotto at 150: C+/B- at the highest
            Cotto at 147: C-/C
            Anything less than that: D+

            Cotto is still a good fighter and I have no problem with either guy fighting him at 154. though it's probably more important for Floyd to fight him than Manny, because Manny already beat him.
            I respectfully disagree on this one my friend. Cotto is a small JMW who while not KOing his opponents flat out, has gotten 3 consecutive TKO wins against bigger guys. Mayorga is wack but makes everyone have a hard night in beating him, he isn't a slouch, and hits hard. Foreman was supposed to box circles around Cotto but Cotto turned out to be the first guy to make his knee give up in the ring, hence the lateral movement he regained with Steward. And Margarito II just had to happen for his mental state, he was seriously not a fan of boxing after that fight, and has said publicly he had no passion in the sport when he was training for Pac. A plaster TKO beatdown will do that to you mentally, especially not knowing the man had plaster yet, traumatized to say the least...So he got over that stuff now and Steward knows Cotto has gotten his balance and bounce back in the ring, not like when he fought Pac.

            His trainer, who could have helped show him things from an objective point of view and developed some sort of game-plan, was instead a yes man, a nutritionist who had no technical knowledge of the sport itself. The new man in his corner seems a way better fit. A poster on here who gets reliable news from PR had said the trainer advised Cotto he would walk out in training him if he didn't give his absolute all. And it seems he has. I believe he was really bad in the head because of his Margs loss, and it had some repercussions on him in the ring. Now that he walked Margs down in some parts of their rematch and pushed him around the ring, looked really strong, tells me a lot. He literally stood in the pocket at ate uppercuts that had did him a lot of damage the first fight, stumbling him even. His swings had a lot of force behind them as well. Margs is tough but didn't have enough power for Cotto. With all his recent comments and actions, it seems he does have some mental confidence going on. Floyd and Pac are amazing fighters though, and I'm not saying he will win but he has a chance, to me. Sorry for the ramble.

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            • Originally posted by Hamaru View Post
              It is funny how this is supposed to be a boxing forum, yet, people don't know the difference between Cotto fighting at 145 and 154. By allot of the logic being used on these forums, Cotto should have lost to Margs in their second fight since he got beat up badly before. At 154 Cotto will keep his power and will be HYDRATED. It makes a big difference.
              Knowledgeable post, good ****. I feel that is important, as well as having a dedicated trainer who knows his ****. However, Pac is still fast and Cotto has to do something about not seeing those punches. Honest and serious question, can Capetillo or any trainer teach him or counter-punching at this stage, or do you think Cotto has enough counter-punch ability? Or would the key be a certain strategy? Either way, I'm sure counter-punching has to be part of that strategy to beat Pac. Cotto would have a challenge keeping to a certain strategy like that. Trying to KO him the first time was not working. I think he would do better than the first fight but at this point I'd rather see him vs Chavez Jr. at 154 or even higher, nice and healthy like he really wants. Sergio fights in March, so he's out for now. Unless they reach a deal with Floyd, but if Floyd rather fight someone else, like Canelo, than Cotto can go for Jr. if he wins. I don't care how much Jr. outweighs Cotto, he's not good enough, and doesn't hit hard enough. He might box better than Cheato but that aint saying much. Cotto would body that kid. Leave Pac for Bradley for now.

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              • im callin a bold one here i think mayweather fights cotto may5th,,, then fights sergio after that IMO he pass'es pacquioa p4p,,,,

                but i can see him takin that route,,,, their egos are too big,,, ima ***** but dammm

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                • Originally posted by akScoundrel View Post
                  I dont really get that money part, the sense i get is cotto/team cotto feel like they have a better chance against pac. The offers are on the table, cotto is just waiting. With either fight, cotto is gonna be making serious bank. He knows that, i think he just feels like he has a better chance at beating pac
                  He DOES. If it's any consolation, Cotto had the most success between Díaz, Hoya, Hatton, Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley. He won the first round by boxing. He was knocked down in the third, but despite that two judges scored it 9-9. Cotto was doing fairly alright in the fourth until he got knocked down. It's also surprising to see that two judges also scored the tenth round 10-9 for Cotto, and keep in mind that it was very late in the fight when Cotto was in full retreat and his wife had already left because of the beating he was taking.

                  Cotto can box Manny. It wasn't until two years after that fight that EVERYBODY saw that Pacquiao looks beatable when outboxed (as in the third Márquez fight).

                  If Pacquiao fights Cotto at a full 154, and given that Cotto has fought him before, then Cotto has a better chance at beating Pacquiao than Mayweather.

                  Cotto can box with Pacquiao because Pacquiao's boxing isn't as polished.

                  What is he going to do against Mayweather? Outbox him? Outwork him? He can't.

                  Cotto has a better chance at beating Pacquiao than beating Mayweather.

                  If I were him, I'd take that fight. Assuming he doesn't have to cut weight, it's the safer option AND a chance to avenge his two losses back-to-back. If he does THAT, well...he becomes a very hot commodity again.

                  He might make more money fighting Mayweather, though. The problem with that is that he's almost guaranteed a loss because I don't see him beating him.

                  Take Pacquiao, fix your mistakes, and try to avenge the other loss.

                  Or fight Mayweather for much more money in the short run, but face a tougher challenge, and most likely one that you are almost sure to lose.

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                  • Originally posted by immortal tech View Post
                    he didn't call out Martinez at 150 catchweight he was asked about what Martinez said going down to 150 to fight either Floyd or Manny.
                    On topic Cotto doesn't want to fight Mayweather from what I been reading and Manny won't risk going to 147 it means Cotto has two options either Chavez Jr or Canelo Next
                    What are you talking about, Cotto's people are talking to Floyds people too, there's nothing to say he don't want it. Some posters are blind or ignorant, Pac is the one who is suggesting the rematch with Cotto and Cotto wasn't even thinking about it. Cotto never called out Pac. It's Arum who is scared of Floyd, not the fighters man.

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                    • fight mayweather for more $$$,,, aint nothing wrong with losin to mayweather



                      but when ur fighting at catchweights we gotta problem!!!,,


                      then go fight margarito in mexico for a 3rd fight IF he's concerened (typo) bout fighting afterwards

                      (been sayin this for a while no disrespect to cotto but i think hes ready to cash out against mayweather)

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