Is Freddie Roach overrated?

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  • John Barron
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    #61
    going by the many awards given and the media's emphasize on him, yes, he is overrated.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Hes progressed to really where he should be for an Olympic Silver Medalist. To me, he still gets hit with the same shots that Prescott hit him with.
      I think it's his lack of discipline and inexperience.

      He tries to be too macho and prove how good his chin is. He leaves himself open so he can throw his ' dazzling ' combinations. But when he boxes behind the jab, he does look a lot better. However, his survival skills/defense worry me the most.

      I think the real problem is Roach is being too cautious with Khan. He's taught Khan to run and use movement as a defense and not picking off shots/blocking/parrying etc.

      It's obvious to all how 1-dimensional Khan looked when he fought Peterson, he had no answer to him on the inside.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Dem Eyes
        I think it's his lack of discipline and inexperience.

        He tries to be too macho and prove how good his chin is. He leaves himself open so he can throw his ' dazzling ' combinations. But when he boxes behind the jab, he does look a lot better. However, his survival skills/defense worry me the most.

        I think the real problem is Roach is being too cautious with Khan. He's taught Khan to run and use movement as a defense and not picking off shots/blocking/parrying etc.

        It's obvious to all how 1-dimensional Khan looked when he fought Peterson, he had no answer to him on the inside.
        I don't believe that ***** about him "wanting to prove his chin" at all. If that's what he wanted, he wouldn't run so much.

        He throws those combos because that's what Roach trains him to do. Fight at a ******ly fast past and throw pointless combos with no thought or conviction behind them.

        A more suited trainer would have got him to calm down, sit on his punches more etc. The only time Ive seen Khan fight the way he was supposed to was against Malignaggi. I really thought Roach had something there.

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        • D-MiZe
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          #64
          He's always talking about his chin in articles or taunting opponents.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Dem Eyes
            I think it's his lack of discipline and inexperience.

            He tries to be too macho and prove how good his chin is. He leaves himself open so he can throw his ' dazzling ' combinations. But when he boxes behind the jab, he does look a lot better. However, his survival skills/defense worry me the most.

            I think the real problem is Roach is being too cautious with Khan. He's taught Khan to run and use movement as a defense and not picking off shots/blocking/parrying etc.

            It's obvious to all how 1-dimensional Khan looked when he fought Peterson, he had no answer to him on the inside.
            Exactly. Cause Roach can't teach a fighter how to defend themselves....

            You just owned yourself

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              #66
              Originally posted by Pretty Boy32
              Exactly. Cause Roach can't teach a fighter how to defend themselves....

              You just owned yourself
              A basic defense isn't really that hard to teach and for a trainer that's as good as Roach is I'm sure he'll be able to sort Khan out. Roach trains Khan to spoil on the inside and get the fight back at range where he can use his reach and jab to control the fight.

              Try again.

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                #67
                Its up to his fighters to listen to him in the ring the guy does know a lot and has made his fighters better.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Dem Eyes
                  He's always talking about his chin in articles or taunting opponents.

                  That's because he keeps getting hit.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Dem Eyes
                    A basic defense isn't really that hard to teach and for a trainer that's as good as Roach is I'm sure he'll be able to sort Khan out. Roach trains Khan to spoil on the inside and get the fight back at range where he can use his reach and jab to control the fight.

                    Try again.

                    Hahhaha man accept it you owned yourself

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Dem Eyes
                      A basic defense isn't really that hard to teach and for a trainer that's as good as Roach is I'm sure he'll be able to sort Khan out. Roach trains Khan to spoil on the inside and get the fight back at range where he can use his reach and jab to control the fight.

                      Try again.

                      I'd love it if Khan actually "spoiled" on the inside. But he doesn't. He stands there with his gloves beside his ears and watches punches hit him in the face.

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