Who was the greatest Heavyweight Post- Ali era?

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  • joseph5620
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    #201
    Originally posted by Money Shot
    Chisora was out pointed by Fury, not stopped or retired two fights later from injuries sustained like Mason was verses Lewis. Mason vs current Chisora would be a close competitive fight but Mason didn't fight outside of the UK until they removed his license. Chisora already has and is going to have a much bigger career. Facto.
    Oh I see. Tyson Fury is comparable to Lewis. I'm finished here.

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    • Money Shot
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      #202
      Originally posted by joseph5620
      Oh I see. Tyson Fury is comparable to Lewis. I'm finished here.


      What's to compare? He was stopped by a young Lewis in seven rounds and that was the end of his career. Lewis in 1991 was no more a fighter than Fury is now and far from the prime fighter he became ten years later. And how do you know where Fury or Chisora will be two or three years from now? Stop talking utter garbage. Mason was a good domestic fighter, too good for Bruno who ducked him, but he never went outside that, Chisora already has and is fighting for the big prize. Digging yourself a hole pal.

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      • Pugilistic™
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        #203
        Top 3

        Holmes
        Lewis
        Holyfield

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        • ..David..
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          #204
          I Voted Holmes because he was the most consistent and fought great oposition....


          But still i Got to say that i believe the young prime Mike Tyson ( before buster ) was the most skilled at that particular time he would have beaten any in the list IMO.

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          • nomadman
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            #205
            Originally posted by joseph5620
            Shavers? I think he is of the hardest punchers based on what he did to fighters not easy to hurt
            Doesn't sound that much better than Sanders based on that rationale.

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            • Mr. Invincible
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              #206
              Originally posted by -Deal With It-
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              There's no argument whatsoever to rank Wlad ahead of Tyson. None.

              Not even slightly debatable.



              Adjust your bifocals.


              Sanders threw punches, they connected, Vitali hits the canvas.

              Knockdown!
              Wlad has more title fight wins and a higher ko ratio in title fights than Tyson. Mike only beat up on light heavyweights, bums and old past it legends. He lost to every top tier guy he faced and even a 'B' fighter at his absolute peak. Tyson is more well known, but Wlad is the better fighter and has the better resume.

              Was it ruled a KD? Was there an actual connected punch? Nope. Falling while avoiding shots and getting pushed is not a KD. If that's all you have to say I pity your case for you. Go get some stronger straws to grasp at.

              Btw, what is it about the Klitschko's you hate so much? I'm just curious what causes such ignorance.

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                #207
                Originally posted by Money Shot
                What's to compare? He was stopped by a young Lewis in seven rounds and that was the end of his career. Lewis in 1991 was no more a fighter than Fury is now and far from the prime fighter he became ten years later. And how do you know where Fury or Chisora will be two or three years from now? Stop talking utter garbage. Mason was a good domestic fighter, too good for Bruno who ducked him, but he never went outside that, Chisora already has and is fighting for the big prize. Digging yourself a hole pal.
                Words fail me.......

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                • Mr. Invincible
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by It's Ovah
                  I rank the Holmes win pretty damn highly. Holmes wasn't nearly as past it as people assumed, yet Tyson demolished him. That earns big stars from me.

                  Wlad's got the consistency going for him.

                  I'd say there's an argument for both.
                  I agree, Holmes wasn't washed up, but he was coming off two losses in a row and was not at his best. Seeing as how Tyson beat him by bad ko I give him credit but when you really look at his record, he didn't have many title defenses and was beaten by a 40-1 underdog at his peak. His overall competition wasn't all that great either. To me , Wlad has not lost in his prime and has a lot more title defenses than Tyson already.

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                  • -Deal With It-
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                    Wlad has more title fight wins (false) and a higher ko ratio in title fights than Tyson.
                    Wlad also has LESS KO's in title fights than Tyson.

                    LESS wins than Tyson in title fights.

                    LESS KO's over top 10 opposition than Tyson.

                    LESS wins over top 10 opposition than Tyson.

                    LESS KO's over HOF's/ATG's than Tyson.

                    LESS wins over HOF's/ATG's than Tyson.

                    WLAD'S OPPOSITION HAS LESS WINS OVER OTHER TOP TEN HEAVYWEIGHTS THAN TYSON'S OPPOSITION

                    Now, to where Wlad has Tyson beat.

                    Wlad has more losses to unranked opposition than Tyson, with a career that is 5 years shorter than Tyson's

                    It took Tyson nearly 20 years and a blown out knee before he had his 1st loss to an unranked opponent.

                    Like i said, it's not even the slightest bit debatable. Wlad is nowhere near Tyson's level, nor will he ever be.


                    Mike only beat up on light heavyweights, bums and old past it legends.
                    Oh, the Irony.

                    Wlad's "greatest" win, is over a guy who is a natural middleweight.

                    Michael Spinks > Chris Byrd

                    by fucking leaps & bounds.



                    Was it ruled a KD? Was there an actual connected punch? Nope. Falling while avoiding shots and getting pushed is not a KD. If that's all you have to say I pity your case for you. Go get some stronger straws to grasp at.
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                    Punches land on a scoring area, the recipient of those scoring punches falls to the canvas = KNOCKDOWN!

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                    • Mr. Invincible
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by -Deal With It-
                      Wlad also has LESS KO's in title fights than Tyson.

                      LESS wins than Tyson in title fights.

                      LESS KO's over top 10 opposition than Tyson.

                      LESS wins over top 10 opposition than Tyson.

                      LESS KO's over HOF's/ATG's than Tyson.

                      LESS wins over HOF's/ATG's than Tyson.

                      WLAD'S OPPOSITION HAS LESS WINS OVER OTHER TOP TEN HEAVYWEIGHTS THAN TYSON'S OPPOSITION

                      Now, to where Wlad has Tyson beat.

                      Wlad has more losses to unranked opposition than Tyson, with a career that is 5 years shorter than Tyson's

                      It took Tyson nearly 20 years and a blown out knee before he had his 1st loss to an unranked opponent.

                      Like i said, it's not even the slightest bit debatable. Wlad is nowhere near Tyson's level, nor will he ever be.




                      Oh, the Irony.

                      Wlad's "greatest" win, is over a guy who is a natural middleweight.

                      Michael Spinks > Chris Byrd

                      by fucking leaps & bounds.





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                      Punches land on a scoring area, the recipient of those scoring punches falls to the canvas = KNOCKDOWN!
                      I suggest you go recheck your stats buddy. You are incorrect on almost every fricken thing you said. Are you really this dedicated to ignorance?

                      Oh, and answer my question about why you hate the Klitschko's so bad.Jerk.

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