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  • #91
    Originally posted by Mr. Invincible View Post
    I've seen the fight more than once. I know Vitali dominated. If you don't think so then just refer to the score cards. Either way, this argument is irrelevant.
    We've been over this. Score cards do not tell how close a round was between fighters, only who ultimately won it. Vitaly won the vast majority of rounds, nobody disputes this. But he didn't dominate, most of the rounds were very close.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Superflo777 View Post
      Don't underestimate Wlad's punching power, it's exeptionally good, better than Vitali's and he has a deadly straight right. Only thing is he doesn't tend to go for an early KO and instead breaks his opponent down round after round.
      Look, Wlad doesn't punch harder than Ruddock or Lewis. And before you argue that both Mercer and Botha said Lewis is a harder puncher than Wlad.

      This why fans like you annoy me. Tyson is not Eddie Chambers.He had a very good chin and it took a LOT of punches to finish him He's not a fighter that is going out with one punch.

      Wlad's best opponents did not go out easy or with one punch. He hit Haye plenty and never came close to knocking him out. Buy according to you he could KO Ali and knock Tyson out with one punch. Stop acting like every fighter in history would fold once Wlad hits them. That's beyond being a fan. It's hero worshiping.

      Also when Haye landed his right Wlad held like his life depended on it..So how do you think he would react to getting hit by Tyson?
      Last edited by joseph5620; 01-05-2012, 02:59 PM.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Mr. Invincible View Post
        I promise you Wlad could take anyone out with one shot if he caught him right. That's a gaurantee.
        Wlad caught Brewster,Haye Purrity, Byrd and many other who didn't go out with one shot. You're talking like a typical hero worshiping fan boy now. There is a bigger chance that Wlad goes out with one shot than Tyson. What does Wlad do when he gets hit? Holds on as if his life depends on it. He even did that with Haye. When has Tyson ever gone out with one punch? He didn't with Lewis who both Mercer and Botha said hit harder than Wlad.
        Last edited by joseph5620; 01-05-2012, 03:15 PM.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
          He also quit and was backing up from a much smaller fighter before it ended
          .

          Scorecards only matter if a fight goes to a decision. Something hero worshipers don't understand.
          You seem to be talking out of your Asc On a lot of your responses. You really think Vitali Klitschko backs up from Byrd if he could properly defend himself? Vitali was the aggressor throughout... this wasn't no stamina issue where all of a sudden Byrd magically turns the tide when Vitali started tiring & emptying his load. Vitali can throw punches all night long EVEN if he;s missing the majority of them... that's just the way he fights.. even with Areolla he was backing up & throwing shots at the same time.. Truth be told & let's put this thing to bed once & for all. Vitali did miss alot.. did throw his shoulder out in the process somwhere in the bout & was EMBARASSED by the fact Byrd.. a blown up super middleweight was backing him up because of the injury...


          Vitali may have been throwing punches on adrenaline but it got to the point where he had nothing on them & because he couldn't properly offend... he couldn't properly defend as Vitali more than anyone uses offense as part of defense & when the offense goes.. he can't defend properly.. throwing punches is his defense... he got emabarassed & couldn't stand the thought of Chris Byrd backing him up while he was seriously hindered & rather than face that fear.. he panicked & couldn't bear the thought & or embarassment... so he bailed.. rather than face that fear... but the injury was legit & that was hindering his ability to fend off Byrd


          . This was a fighter who was used to having a fight go only one way & that is 27 straight stoppages in a row. He did have the injury & he did freak out about it.. He also had the lead on the scorecards but it was irrelevant in his decision as he knew he was giving ByRD the fight..


          I've always stated that because of Byrd's stature as a featherfister.. it made it that much more embarassing to be backed up from him for another 3 rds & if it was a normal puncher.. perhaps Vitali would not have been that embarassed & just winged it for 3 more rds... I believe he was in pain like he stated but could've willed it if circumstances were different & he was under the same scrutiny like in the Lewis bout.. with Lewis it was pride.. with Byrd it was embarassment & fear & that's why we had a tale of two Vitali's.. i honestly can't be more honest than that as I do believe this was at the heart of Vitali's decision to quit without any bias on my part.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
            Wlad caught Brewster,Haye Purrity, Byrd and many other who didn't go out with one shot. You're talking like a typical hero worshiping fan boy now. There is a bigger chance that Wlad goes out with one shot than Tyson. What does Wlad do when he gets hit? Holds on as if his life depends on it. He even did that with Haye. When has Tyson ever gone out with one punch? He didn't with Lewis who both Mercer and Botha said hit harder than Wlad.
            Look, you can think whatever you want about me, it doesn't matter but facts are that Wlad has plenty of one punch power. Go look at his record. He has 19 actual ko's in 59 fights. That's straight knockouts where the opponent didn't reach his feet in ten. Tyson has 14 in 56 fights.

            He also has a way higher knockout ratio. One of the best in heavyweight titleist history @ 83%.

            What does that tell you? I'm curious to hear it.

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            • #96
              To the Klit's fans that think Mike was dissing the bros...He wasn't it was a freaking compliment.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Mr. Invincible View Post
                He WAS dominating: aka: winning all but a round or two.

                Just because Byrd was able to connect a few times more than normal after Vitali's injury became more unbearable doesn't have any weight in the debate. Vitali easily beats him if the injury doesn't occur.

                I know it, you know it, everyone else on here knows it so just accept it and admitt it.
                A net of 8 punches is hardly dominating. Less than 1 punch more than Byrd per round. LOL

                And before you say Vitali hits HaAArrrdeer, why wasnt Byrd stunned, dazed, bruised or bloodied at any point in the fight?

                Face it: your boy got worked and backed up by a Supermiddleweight.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
                  You seem to be talking out of your Asc On a lot of your responses. You really think Vitali Klitschko backs up from Byrd if he could properly defend himself? Vitali was the aggressor throughout... this wasn't no stamina issue where all of a sudden Byrd magically turns the tide when Vitali started tiring & emptying his load. Vitali can throw punches all night long EVEN if he;s missing the majority of them... that's just the way he fights.. even with Areolla he was backing up & throwing shots at the same time.. Truth be told & let's put this thing to bed once & for all. Vitali did miss alot.. did throw his shoulder out in the process somwhere in the bout & was EMBARASSED by the fact Byrd.. a blown up super middleweight was backing him up because of the injury...


                  Vitali may have been throwing punches on adrenaline but it got to the point where he had nothing on them & because he couldn't properly offend... he couldn't properly defend as Vitali more than anyone uses offense as part of defense & when the offense goes.. he can't defend properly.. throwing punches is his defense... he got emabarassed & couldn't stand the thought of Chris Byrd backing him up while he was seriously hindered & rather than face that fear.. he panicked & couldn't bear the thought & or embarassment... so he bailed.. rather than face that fear... but the injury was legit & that was hindering his ability to fend off Byrd


                  . This was a fighter who was used to having a fight go only one way & that is 27 straight stoppages in a row. He did have the injury & he did freak out about it.. He also had the lead on the scorecards but it was irrelevant in his decision as he knew he was giving ByRD the fight..


                  I've always stated that because of Byrd's stature as a featherfister.. it made it that much more embarassing to be backed up from him for another 3 rds & if it was a normal puncher.. perhaps Vitali would not have been that embarassed & just winged it for 3 more rds... I believe he was in pain like he stated but could've willed it if circumstances were different & he was under the same scrutiny like in the Lewis bout.. with Lewis it was pride.. with Byrd it was embarassment & fear & that's why we had a tale of two Vitali's.. i honestly can't be more honest than that as I do believe this was at the heart of Vitali's decision to quit without any bias on my part.
                  It's obvious that you've read too much into the situation and filled in the gaps with imagination.

                  Vitali quit that fight because he was too injured to continue. Period.

                  Byrd didn't stop him and wasn't winning the fight by any stretch of the imagination.

                  Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to follow another sport.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by FJRod View Post
                    To the Klit's fans that think Mike was dissing the bros...He wasn't it was a freaking compliment.
                    I don't think that at all, I think it was an awesome comment coming from an ATG and legend. It's the haters on here that have a problem with the Klitschko's dominance. The legends understand and appreciate it full well.

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                    • Originally posted by Joeyzagz View Post
                      A net of 8 punches is hardly dominating. Less than 1 punch more than Byrd per round. LOL

                      And before you say Vitali hits HaAArrrdeer, why wasnt Byrd stunned, dazed, bruised or bloodied at any point in the fight?

                      Face it: your boy got worked and backed up by a Supermiddleweight.
                      Lol, whatever, I bet my weight in gold you don't even really believe that garbage.

                      Just look at the score cards. Boxing is judged by rounds. Vitali dominated and got injured. It's common knowledge.

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