Vitaly and steroids

[BattlingNelson]

You can really play this game with every possible fighter.

Tell me one fighter for which you can say there is no chance he uses/used something illegal...

Yeah, but it's fair to say that those fighting out of Germany are far less su****ious than those fighting out of North America because roidtesting is pretty much absent over there.

[BattlingNelson]

If indeed Liston had abused steroids during his career, yes.

But you just said that shoulderinjuries are indicative of steroidabuse didn't you?

[JAB5239]

You can really play this game with every possible fighter.

Tell me one fighter for which you can say there is no chance he uses/used something illegal...

I agree. But su****ions should run higher with certain fighters such as those who tested positive before, have been on PED mailing lists and who have performed at an unusually high level late into their career. Its your prerogative to think differently.

[Jedi Vader]

But you just said that shoulderinjuries are indicative of steroidabuse didn't you?

What the frig are you babbling on about??

You asked me to provide proof that shoulder injuries can arise from steroid abuse. I gave you a perfectly plausible link, yet you're babbling on about boll0cks.

You Klitlickers can never deal with facts when they're presented to you.

[JAB5239]

So Liston was on PED's when he quit against Ali with a shoulder injury? Surely that must be your conclusion.

Just out of curiosity, did Liston have reoccurring shoulder and injury problems? Did he have any history whatsoever with PED's? I think its fair to say you're being intentionally obtuse my friend.

[Weltschmerz]

I wouldn't be surprised if Lennox Lewis was on steroids. Just compare his size from the 90's to later in his career. He literally grew bigger.

Lewis used to weigh around 225-230 pounds early in his career, while later in his career he was fighting at around 250 pounds, being huge and muscular (not flabby). It almost doesn't look like the same fighter.

Vitali's physical appearance never changed like that of Lewis.

[DreamFighter]

I wouldn't be surprised if Lennox Lewis was on steroids. Just compare his size from the 90's to later in his career. He literally grew bigger.

Lewis used to weigh around 225-230 pounds early in his career, while later in his career he was fighting at around 250 pounds, being huge and muscular (not flabby). It almost doesn't look like the same fighter.

Vitali's physical appearance never changed like that of Lewis.

he got older and thus fatter, not stronger. The guy was ALWAYS a Superheavy even as an Olympian.

He was KOing people when he was young better than when he was tko6ing them when he was old. .


Whereas prime Vitali, who possibly was on steroids (proven), still got tkoed in 6 versus old fat lewis.So yes there was definitely a WIDE gulf in class there, is that what you mean, mate?

[Jam Jars]

I wouldn't be surprised if Lennox Lewis was on steroids. Just compare his size from the 90's to later in his career. He literally grew bigger.

Lewis used to weigh around 225-230 pounds early in his career, while later in his career he was fighting at around 250 pounds, being huge and muscular (not flabby). It almost doesn't look like the same fighter.

Vitali's physical appearance never changed like that of Lewis.

He got older and fatter and all his physical attributes declined. He wasn't throwing more punches than he ever did as he got older and looking fitter than ever, like Vitali.

[JAB5239]

I wouldn't be surprised if Lennox Lewis was on steroids. Just compare his size from the 90's to later in his career. He literally grew bigger.

Lewis used to weigh around 225-230 pounds early in his career, while later in his career he was fighting at around 250 pounds, being huge and muscular (not flabby). It almost doesn't look like the same fighter.

Vitali's physical appearance never changed like that of Lewis.

You should start a thread all about it!

[Weltschmerz]

he got older and thus fatter, not stronger. The guy was ALWAYS a Superheavy even as an Olympian.

He was KOing people when he was young better than when he was tko6ing them when he was old. .


Whereas prime Vitali, who possibly was on steroids (proven), still got tkoed in 6 versus old fat lewis.So yes there was definitely a WIDE gulf in class there, is that what you mean, mate?

You're lying. He hasn't been proven guilty of steroid usage since 1996 (prior his prime as a pro boxer.)