Vitaly and steroids

[JAB5239]

Some do, but most are biased beyond the objectivity.

You won't make a thread about Holyfield and steroids if you know what I mean.

I wouldn't make a thread about Holyfield? Why not, I've made threads about Hopkins and Jones and there is far less extenuating circumstances for Hopkins than for Holy.

[joe strong]

he is a doctor in sports medicine & if anyone could screen a test it would be him...there are so many athletes cheating that nothing surprises me. botha & toney were always chunky & they used. so who knows?

[techliam]

he is a doctor in sports medicine & if anyone could screen a test it would be him...there are so many athletes cheating that nothing surprises me. botha & toney were always chunky & they used. so who knows?

He has a doctorate in Sports Science, not Sports Medicine... his thesis was on Talent and Sponsorship in Sports, nothing to do with medicine/drugs at all

[Daddy T]

if he takes a big long year off (no testing) after looking pretty crappy v chisora and a meaningless fight v charr and then looks great again ... major HMMMMMMM

[JAB5239]

If you disregard the legitimacy of the German testing boards. I'd accuse US fighters to be at a higher risk of PEDs since their testing boards are known to be lax in places, and have doubt surrounding them. The fact Vitali was caught in the first place is testament to that

Except he wasnt caught by a German boxing commission .

[joe strong]

He has a doctorate in Sports Science, not Sports Medicine... his thesis was on Talent and Sponsorship in Sports, nothing to do with medicine/drugs at all

thank you for clearing that up. always thought he & his brother were sports medicine grads...

[Simurgh]

You can really play this game with every possible fighter.

Tell me one fighter for which you can say there is no chance he uses/used something illegal...

[joe strong]

You can really play this game with every possible fighter.

Tell me one fighter for which you can say there is no chance he uses/used something illegal...

i wouldn't be surprised if there are more using then not using...there are steroids for everything.

[techliam]

Except he wasnt caught by a German boxing commission .

This is fair enough.

Here's an article from 2004 which is pretty interesting:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...oid-abuse.html

[Ray*]

He was scheduled to fight on Lewis's undercard, so no.

he was on the undercard & was training to fight cedric boswell. the main event was lennox vs kirk johnson. johnson tore his pec & lennox just gave vitali a shot instead of cancelling the event.

Thanks for clearing that up.