Vitaly and steroids

[JAB5239]

Not neccessarily. Vitali had sparring 'fights' prior to his return just as Henry Maske and Brian Nielsen had.

How many and for how long?

[Simurgh]

Why are you so persistent to suggest he hasn't?

And he wasn't always consistent. Coming back after a 4 year layoff with no ring rust is NOT consitent with a 37 year old athlete. It is consistent with someone who MAY be using PED's and does have a history of it.

Because it never was proven or suggested or anywhere near during his pro career.
He took 4 year layoff, but in those 4 years he hardly got any weight (fat), he was well conditioned, and surely he knew what he needed to do to be successful in his comeback.

I didn't open a thread suggesting some fighter is clean or not. I don't see a point in that. I mean you spent an admirable amount of time trying to suggest Vitali is on something (or might be)...

[JAB5239]

Don't you remember how many times he had to postpone a defense (against Rahman or someone) several times due to injury before finally deciding to retire and let his body heal?

Yes I do. And his frequent injuries are also a sign of steroid abuse. Remember, this is a guy who take little punnishment. Why all the injuries?

[BattlingNelson]

Sure.

He is already a proven steroid cheat.
He suffers from injuries that are synonymous with steroid taking.
He comfortably came back from a 4 year break to continue KO'ing bums.

1: Yes

2: What injuries is it that can be linked to roid abuse?

3:So a superiour athlete (which both the klits are compared to todays HW's) has to roid to KO bums? Aha. Ahahahahahaha.

[BattlingNelson]

Yes I do. And his frequent injuries are also a sign of steroid abuse. Remember, this is a guy who take little punnishment. Why all the injuries?

Maybe because of years and years of heavy training?

He should just taken some roids so his body could recuperate don't you think? I guess he didn't.

[JAB5239]

Because it never was proven or suggested or anywhere near during his pro career.
He took 4 year layoff, but in those 4 years he hardly got any weight (fat), he was well conditioned, and surely he knew what he needed to do to be successful in his comeback.

I didn't open a thread suggesting some fighter is clean or not. I don't see a point in that. I mean you spent an admirable amount of time trying to suggest Vitali is on something (or might be)...

Look, this is a forum for boxing discussion. If you din't like the topic than don't click the thread. But its obvious from the poll results that not everybody feels the same way as you.

[BattlingNelson]

How many and for how long?

What's the point here?

[JAB5239]

Maybe because of years and years of heavy training?

He should just taken some roids so his body could recuperate don't you think? I guess he didn't.

Well, he does have a history of it doesn't he? Who's to say he hasn't?

[JAB5239]

What's the point here?

The point is that sparring 3 or 4 times over 4 years does not remove ring rust.

[Simurgh]

Look, this is a forum for boxing discussion. If you din't like the topic than don't click the thread. But its obvious from the poll results that not everybody feels the same way as you.

Of course it is. I was just interested to probe your motivation. I assume it's towards the well-being of this forum and the healthy boxing conversation

Lets hope we all learn something in here.