Comments Thread For: Andre Dirrell: I Want Lucian Bute, He's a Protected Fighter

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  • BoxingGenius27
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    #161
    Originally posted by 168SMW
    Are you really compared AA to Bute? lol

    AA is a middleweight, he looked like a bum imo at 168.

    Bute is way bigger and more power in his punch than Abraham. Lucian Bute is 6"2 - 190lbs. Abraham is 5"9 and only beat 1 legit guy at 168.

    Sorry but Andrade and Magee are way tougher than Dirrell and they couldn't ate shot in the liver.

    At 168, I see Ward beating Bute...Kessler may be.

    -Froch get beated in a wide decision (especially since Froch is talking **** on Bute and Bute is actually mad for the first time of his pro career....Bute looked a thousand time better against Glen Johnson and Magee than Froch did...Honestly I had Glen Johnson edging their fight)

    -Dirrell is a wuss and could actually get KO'ed.

    -Stieglitz is a easy KO target for Bute.



    Kessler, Dirrell, Stieglitz, Ward, Froch, Bute, Johnson, Abraham(not really a good 168 fighter).

    People are ripping on Bute for fightings guys like Andrade, Bika, Miranda, Berrio, Zuniga, Joppy, Johnson, Magee etc but when you look at it, the 168 division isn't that deep. There are 4-5 really good 168, and then the others guys...

    Bute's resume isn't as bad as you make it out to be. Anyway, as far as im concerned, you dont know ****.


    1. AA looked like a bum at super middleweight because he lost to the top in the division?

    2. How can you advocate Bute fighting Glenn Johnson the slightest bit, whom he admitted to being his top opponent at the time?

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    • deejd
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      #162
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      Says the man who faked an injury to avoid Ward
      Has Bute fought Ward? Was he even picked for the super six? Thought so.

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      • sweetscience18
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        #163
        Dirrell should still be undefeated, and if he fights Bute in CA i dont think he will get the knockout so expect him to get robbed

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        • deejd
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          #164
          Originally posted by sweetscience18
          Dirrell should still be undefeated, and if he fights Bute in CA i dont think he will get the knockout so expect him to get robbed
          Exactly, I thought he won the fight against Froch but at the same time, he was in his backyard so it was unlikely that he'd win on the cards.

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          • sicko
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            #165
            Originally posted by tomatocantender
            You're missing a very critical piece to this timeline you lay out. Whether Dirrell faked the AA late shot is immaterial and a red herring to what happened months later...which is the fact that ambiguous medical reports on a neuro disorder led him to back out of Ward and the entire tourney. What makes me very skeptical is I remember Dirrell offering very lucid commentary at the Ward & Green fight (which was LESS than 3 months after Dirrell vs. AA) and even giving us fans an insight on how he/Dirrell will outbox Ward. Then later when the Boxing Public was getting pissed at Ward's & Dirrell's promoters for not giving us concrete pressers and promotional material (when a date for the fight was already established but no exact venue), then we LEARNED of the "neuro problems" that Dirrell CONVENIENTLY started experiencing. So to sum up, the deal of "faking" vs. AA is a complete red herring to the events that later transpired when Dirrell wanted NO PART of his "buddy" getting ready to tax that ass.
            blah blah blah...I don't give a *** about NONE OF THAT! All that BS still don't change that fact that he is a very talented fighter and one of the best in his Division, all I know is that he is returning and ready to fight again...we can sit and boxing forums and Speculate all we want...but what does that solves? Does it make some fans feel better about themselves on boxing forums and it gives them ammo to BASH DIRRELL and call him a Actor and Say he was Faking? OK!

            But all of that still won't take away from the dude RAW talent and Skills, I always thought that his UPSIDE is even better then Andre Ward and I still believe that...I am not going to over look that fact that he out-classed Froch and Abraham when many predicted that he would "GET KNOCKED OUT" and nobody gave him or Ward much of a chance

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              #166
              Originally posted by sicko
              NEVER MIND if you thought Dirrell was faking during the Abraham fight...bottom line is that he DOMINATED ABRAHAM most of that fight and it was Abraham who was ****** enough to hit Dirrell while he was down

              Bute beats Dirrell based on what? Because some of you just want him to? LOL Boxing don't work like that...
              Great post.

              It's irrelevant if Dirrell was faking or not, and it's irrelevant why Dirrell pulled out of the fight with Ward. The only thing that matters is that he is calling out Bute NOW.

              Is the Canadian going to accept the challenge or not?

              If he doesn't then it better be because he's fighting Froch (or Ward or Kessler.) If he fights another tomato can instead it is not going to look good for him in the eyes of most fans.

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              • 168SMW
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                #167
                Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                1. AA looked like a bum at super middleweight because he lost to the top in the division?

                2. How can you advocate Bute fighting Glenn Johnson the slightest bit, whom he admitted to being his top opponent at the time?
                Johnson is a tough fight to anyone in the division since he never get knockout. Bute beat him worst than any other fighter he faced. You could argue Johnson won against Cloud. So why you were so hyped up about a catchweight non title fight.

                Bute is the IBF champ, defended his belt like 7 times so far. If Cloud want to fight, he should drop to 168, I hate those catchweights matches.

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                • BoxingGenius27
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by 168SMW
                  Johnson is a tough fight to anyone in the division since he never get knockout.
                  Oh really?

                  168SMW on Glenn Jonson "BEFORE" he fought Bute:

                  Originally posted by 168SMW
                  Another fighter dodging Bute.

                  You are old, past your prime, lost to every decent fighter you faced, take that money.
                  I'm done with you, but thanks for playing

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                  • Hitman932
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by tomatocantender
                    You're missing a very critical piece to this timeline you lay out. Whether Dirrell faked the AA late shot is immaterial and a red herring to what happened months later...which is the fact that ambiguous medical reports on a neuro disorder led him to back out of Ward and the entire tourney. What makes me very skeptical is I remember Dirrell offering very lucid commentary at the Ward & Green fight (which was LESS than 3 months after Dirrell vs. AA) and even giving us fans an insight on how he/Dirrell will outbox Ward. Then later when the Boxing Public was getting pissed at Ward's & Dirrell's promoters for not giving us concrete pressers and promotional material (when a date for the fight was already established but no exact venue), then we LEARNED of the "neuro problems" that Dirrell CONVENIENTLY started experiencing. So to sum up, the deal of "faking" vs. AA is a complete red herring to the events that later transpired when Dirrell wanted NO PART of his "buddy" getting ready to tax that ass.

                    Are you being serious with this "lucid commentary" bull****?

                    This is like the 2nd or 3rd person I've seen who questioned Dirrell's injury because he was able to give 30 seconds of commentary 3 months after suffering a concussion.

                    Sidney Crosby hasnt even been able to play hockey for a year because of a innocuous hit. That doesn't mean he is unable to speak publicly or stutters and stammers like a ****** as a result of his injury.

                    Part of the reason concussions go undiagnosed so often is because people retain a high level of lucidity and often still function almost 100% as normal.

                    When you are talking about a sport like boxing there is a big difference between talking about a fight, and then actually getting in the ring and getting punched in the head. One requires a healthy brain, the other really does not.

                    What a joke some of you morons are.

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                    • BoxingGenius27
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by 168SMW
                      Bute beat him worst than any other fighter he faced. You could argue Johnson won against Cloud. So why you were so hyped up about a catchweight non title fight.
                      PS: Since when did beating a fighter worse than he already has been beaten become such a "BIG" accomplishment?

                      That's how you know a fighter's resume stinks when you have to say "Bute beat Fighter A worse than Fighter A had already been beaten before".

                      Don't be fooled by the commentary from that fight. Bute maybe won, but he wasn't clearly dominating anything. More less giving Johnson the worst beating of his career LMAO You guys are ridiculous.

                      Which brings me to my next point. Are you saying Bute beat Johnson worse than Hopkins did?

                      Please stay logged off. Thanks in advance.
                      Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 12-29-2011, 01:43 PM.

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