Is Mayweather the most well-rounded fighter ever?

[cupocity303]

It's not necessary for me to state his reasons so you are not going to hear them. (For the record there could be a thousand and one different reasons). Bottom line is people with eyes would see that when Floyd wanted to drop Marquez he did, when Floyd wanted to hit Marquez he did, when Floyd wanted to rock Marquez he did, if Floyd wanted to he could have upped his work rate (forcing a stoppage).

More horrible analogy.

JMM was prone to get exposed against sharp-shooters, who counter or throw one or two shots at a time. That doesn't mean that Floyd can turn into a Manny Pacquiao and Arturo Gatti him into a TKO.

Clearly you're underestimating JMM's ablities and overrating Floyd's.

[FeFist]

More horrible analogy.

JMM was prone to get exposed against sharp-shooters, who counter or throw one or two shots at a time. That doesn't mean that Floyd can turn into a Manny Pacquiao and Arturo Gatti him into a TKO.

Clearly you're underestimating JMM's ablities and overrating Floyd's.

Marquez landed with a flush shot Floyd grinned then dropped him and you don't have to fight like Pacquiao or Gatti to score a TKO. Fact of the matter is he was in complete control of the match, dropped Marquez when he pleased, rocked him when he pleased, caught him flush when he pleased.

Had he wanted to force the stoppage he could have.

[cupocity303]

Mayweather is not the most "Anything Ever", you silly goop, along with all the other immature silly goops. There are literally dozens of fighters in the past who could eat him raw, and swallow him whole. As has been mentioned before, in the 1920's 30's and 40's there were twice as many boxers registered in New York City as there are now in the whole world.

And, considering that there were only 8 weight classes with same day weigh-in, a fighter who would hold the title for 2-3-4-5-6 years or more, and would have had over 100 fights doing it, would have to have been one hell of a fighter. Nowadays, in "Mayweather time" if a fighter pulls a muscle or strains an ankle, the fight is postoned. Then they fought through it and had 15-20 rd title fights.

Silly nostalgic thinking. Just because fighters from the past fought through tougher conditions doesn't mean that they're better. Fighters from the past were tougher because of the environment they were brought in, and today's fighters are generally more athletic and in better shape because of their modern environment, better nutrition, better training equipment, better understanding of the Human body, longer camps and recovery programs etc,. At least those on the championship level who bother to train and prepare properly.

[cupocity303]

Marquez landed with a flush shot Floyd grinned then dropped him and you don't have to fight like Pacquiao or Gatti to score a TKO. Fact of the matter is he was in complete control of the match, dropped Marquez when he pleased, rocked him when he pleased, caught him flush when he pleased.

Had he wanted to force the stoppage he could have.

I didn't say Floyd fighting "like Gatti". I meant the way Floyd TKO'd Gatti, displaying his full arsenal of weapons, unloading on him like never before.

He can't do that and could never have to a fighter of JMM's quality.

And those of you who disagree are caught up in silly sensationalism.

[cupocity303]

Why is Floyd not throwing combinations a negative? He chooses to be selective because that's part of his gameplan. This is a special attribute that should be noted when you're debating how well rounded a fighter is. If he has a skill that's not popular at all, yet he excels at it? That's gotta be a positive attribute for a well rounded fighter.

Some of you seem to give too much credit to Floyd. Like he purposely holds back as a fighter and is just waiting to unleash Level 2 of his powers.

The reason he doesn't throw combinations is because that's not what he truly practices. That's not really a negative, only from a entertainment perspective for some. He pitty patts with Roger on the mitts for reflexes and reaction purposes.

He throws half-assed combinations on the heavy bag for reflexes. When have you seen him throw down in the Gym like a Pacquiao or even Delahoya? Truly throwing combinations. He was taught to punch like a reactionary sharp-shooter. One fast counter at a time, a one-two here and there.

Have you seen the one flurry he threw against Ortiz, it looked horrible and off balance. Best case scenario from Floyd, and you'll see Mayweather-Gatti but even that wasn't true combination punching.

[cupocity303]

Pernell had worse power and discipline. Leonard didn't always use the best gameplan (Duran I). Duran could be outboxed and had poor discipline. Robinson had worse defense and fought ******ly a lot of the time, unnecessarily slugging. I don't think any of these guys were clearly more well rounded.

Good job at providing some balance.

Some of these guys think name-dropping guys makes them look smarter than everyone else

[Cardinal Buck]

I do think Finito was every bit as well rounded as Floyd.

[UmissUpay]

floyd just fighting slow arse fighters to make himself look fast,
look how ****** he looked againts a fast opponent like judah,
then his uncle choke judah like a b!tch to gass him out
his avoiding fast fighters like a chicken ****,

well rounded cherrypicker if u ask me

againts fast fighters with a brain floyd will look like ****

[turbotime]

floyd just fighting slow arse fighters to make himself look fast,
look how ****** he looked againts a fast opponent like judah,
then his uncle choke judah like a b!tch to gass him out
his avoiding fast fighters like a chicken ****,

well rounded cherrypicker if u ask me

againts fast fighters with a brain floyd will look like ****

Haha, fair and unbiased breakdown of Mayweather I see.

[WESS]

Of all time? Can't honestly say.

Of the last 15 years, I could agree that he is but wouldn't argue if someone felt otherwise.