Did Pacquiao duck Zorrita Soto?

[IronDanHamza]

you're full of ****...how is my post related to floyd? because you said so? don't apply your ****** thoughts to other people. there's a topic at hand and it's very specific so if you can't stick to it just keep your thoughts to yourself because i'm not interested to to see your sentiments. everytime you bring up something unrelated to a post you quoted, you have to be on to something. and don't insist it's related to my post because it's not as far as i'm concerned.

take a break from forum posting will ya? i don't even know how you can have too much time to waste

How is it related? Because what you said applies for Pacquaio also applies for Mayweather.

That's a related topic. Is that difficult to understand? So it seems.

Oh no, I made a general statment that isn't exactly specific to the topic. Because that always happens on these forums.

Everytime I quote someone it's unrelated? Really? Shut the **** up, man.

[brick wall]

How is it related? Because what you said applies for Pacquaio also applies for Mayweather.

That's a related topic. Is that difficult to understand? So it seems.

Oh no, I made a general statment that isn't exactly specific to the topic. Because that always happens on these forums.

Everytime I quote someone it's unrelated? Really? Shut the **** up, man.

just prove you point then if you really have one...simple as that. and provide links if you can. how does it applies to floyd?

when was floyd accused of ducking a soto-type fighter? as far as i can remember the fighters that people are saying that floyd ducked were margarito and cotto and that's not at all comparable to this topic. unless you think that the 2007 soto was on the same level as margarito and cotto.

[Twako]

Pac fought Mexico's best in Morales, Barrera and Marquez and he's afraid of Soto?

Did Morales, Barrera and Marquez fight Soto? Hmm, maybe Soto is the best Mexican fighter and everyone's ducking him.

So who did Soto beat again?

this...

pac fought jmm right after mab, then erik w/in a year. oh man, soto must be a beast! i guess that's why the 3 mexicans ducked him too!

[MexicanPoster]

Revising History, are we??.. Pac already had plans to move up to LW even before he fought JMM in a rematch at 130.. David Diaz had been in their radar as his first test at LW even before the JMM fight. But he chose to fight JMM for the lineal title..

Had JMM didnt returned from being irrelevant in 2007 (after that lose in Indonesia), he would have moved up as early as 2007.

David Diaz was Pac's only and easy fight at 135lbs.

Pac was planning on leaving the 130lbs. after Soto, Valero, Guzman were lining up to fight him, so Pac bailed out of the 130lbs division to avoid them.

when Pac fought JMM in the rematch, David Diaz was on the undercard and supposed to have fought Soto, but Pac asked Arum to replace Soto with Roman Montano, so that Diaz would have an easy win, and be available for Pac to beat afterwards.

everytime Pac jumped weight, Soto moved up and chased him.

Now they're 4 pounds apart.
Pac last fought at 144lbs, and Soto is fighting at 140lbs, and Pac still dont want any part of Soto, cause Pac is deathly scared to fight Soto.

[MexicanPoster]

Pac fought Mexico's best in Morales, Barrera and Marquez and he's afraid of Soto?

Did Morales, Barrera and Marquez fight Soto? Hmm, maybe Soto is the best Mexican fighter and everyone's ducking him.

So who did Soto beat again?

Pac fought and Old Morales, Old Barrera, and Old Marquez.

and Morales, barrera and Marquez all ducked Soto too.

They've seen what Soto can do in the ring, and dont want anything to fo with Soto:




Soto fought bums, cause the big names ducked him.

Soto fought Lorenzo cause Pac vacated his belt to avoide defending it against Soto.

Soto fought David Diaz, cause Diaz was Valero's repalcement cause Valero was afraid to defend his title against Soto.


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[IMDAZED]

I think a lot of the people talking didn't see Soto fight in that era. If they did, they'd realize he and Joan Guzman would've been a long night for anybody in the division.

[IronDanHamza]

just prove you point then if you really have one...simple as that. and provide links if you can. how does it applies to floyd?

when was floyd accused of ducking a soto-type fighter? as far as i can remember the fighters that people are saying that floyd ducked were margarito and cotto and that's not at all comparable to this topic. unless you think that the 2007 soto was on the same level as margarito and cotto.

So you're saying it doesn't apply for Mayweather? Is that what you're implying? Or what? I'm not following you.

A long list of people claim that Mayweather ducked pretty much every fighter he was in the same division as at the same time but for whatever reason the fight didn't happen. Even one's that weren't in the same divison.

From Kosta Tszyu to Winky Wright to Joel Casamyor to Paul Spadafora to Acelino Freitas and so on and so on and so on.

Whilst, anyone who followed the sport during these times know that he obviously did not duck any of those fighters. New fans, who didn't follow the sport then tend to say Mayweather ducked them mainly because they were in the same division at one point or another and the fight's didn't happpen.

Fast forward to this conversation, and you say;

"Why not just list every fighter Pac didn't fight from Flyweight to Welterweight and say he ducked them"

To which I respond with; "That's the exact same thing that happens to Mayweather"

That's a general statment that relates to what you just said. Why you have gone on some tagent about all these other things I simply have no idea.

I wasn't calling you out, I wasn't calling your post wrong or dumb. I was actually agreeing with your post. I don't believe Pac ducked Soto at all. Just because they were in the same division at the same time and the fight didn't happen it doesn't mean Pac ducked him. And that goes for every weight he's fought at.

I was simply saying the same applies for Mayweather, as plenty of people do exactly what you were saying about Pacquaio, with him.

Why you took some sort of offense to that I'm not sure. But it was a general statment and that was all.

[IMDAZED]

So you're saying it doesn't apply for Mayweather? Is that what you're implying? Or what? I'm not following you.

A long list of people claim that Mayweather ducked pretty much every fighter he was in the same division as at the same time but for whatever reason the fight didn't happen. Even one's that weren't in the same divison.

From Kosta Tszyu to Winky Wright to Joel Casamyor to Paul Spadafora to Acelino Freitas and so on and so on and so on.

Whilst, anyone who followed the sport during these times know that he obviously did not duck any of those fighters. New fans, who didn't follow the sport then tend to say Mayweather ducked them mainly because they were in the same division at one point or another and the fight's didn't happpen.

Fast forward to this conversation, and you say;

"Why not just list every fighter Pac didn't fight from Flyweight to Welterweight and say he ducked them"

To which I respond with; "That's the exact same thing that happens to Mayweather"

That's a general statment that relates to what you just said. Why you have gone on some tagent about all these other things I simply have no idea.

I wasn't calling you out, I wasn't calling your post wrong or dumb. I was actually agreeing with your post. I don't believe Pac ducked Soto at all. Just because they were in the same division at the same time and the fight didn't happen it doesn't mean Pac ducked him. And that goes for every weight he's fought at.

I was simply saying the same applies for Mayweather, as plenty of people do exactly what you were saying about Pacquaio, with him.

Why you took some sort of offense to that I'm not sure. But it was a general statment and that was all.

You're talking to Brick Wall. But I understand...I held out for years before adding him to ignore. You think there's hope...but no. Unfortunately, I can't let you continue this because you're forcing me to see his posts, something I swore off before year end. Step away, Iron. Step away.

[The Gambler1981]

So you're saying it doesn't apply for Mayweather? Is that what you're implying? Or what? I'm not following you.

A long list of people claim that Mayweather ducked pretty much every fighter he was in the same division as at the same time but for whatever reason the fight didn't happen. Even one's that weren't in the same divison.

From Kosta Tszyu to Winky Wright to Joel Casamyor to Paul Spadafora to Acelino Freitas and so on and so on and so on.

Whilst, anyone who followed the sport during these times know that he obviously did not duck any of those fighters. New fans, who didn't follow the sport then tend to say Mayweather ducked them mainly because they were in the same division at one point or another and the fight's didn't happpen.

Fast forward to this conversation, and you say;

"Why not just list every fighter Pac didn't fight from Flyweight to Welterweight and say he ducked them"

To which I respond with; "That's the exact same thing that happens to Mayweather"

That's a general statment that relates to what you just said. Why you have gone on some tagent about all these other things I simply have no idea.

I wasn't calling you out, I wasn't calling your post wrong or dumb. I was actually agreeing with your post. I don't believe Pac ducked Soto at all. Just because they were in the same division at the same time and the fight didn't happen it doesn't mean Pac ducked him. And that goes for every weight he's fought at.

I was simply saying the same applies for Mayweather, as plenty of people do exactly what you were saying with him.

Why you took some sort of offense to that I'm not sure. But it was a general statment and that was all.

He took offense because he is guilty of doing that~ even if I didn't know that fact first hand his responce is that of a guilty man trying to justify how he is not a hypocrit.

It is both funny and sad watching him try to act like he is above people~

[MexicanPoster]

So you're saying it doesn't apply for Mayweather? Is that what you're implying? Or what? I'm not following you.

A long list of people claim that Mayweather ducked pretty much every fighter he was in the same division as at the same time but for whatever reason the fight didn't happen. Even one's that weren't in the same divison.

From Kosta Tszyu to Winky Wright to Joel Casamyor to Paul Spadafora to Acelino Freitas and so on and so on and so on.

Whilst, anyone who followed the sport during these times know that he obviously did not duck any of those fighters. New fans, who didn't follow the sport then tend to say Mayweather ducked them mainly because they were in the same division at one point or another and the fight's didn't happpen.

Fast forward to this conversation, and you say;

"Why not just list every fighter Pac didn't fight from Flyweight to Welterweight and say he ducked them"

To which I respond with; "That's the exact same thing that happens to Mayweather"

That's a general statment that relates to what you just said. Why you have gone on some tagent about all these other things I simply have no idea.

I wasn't calling you out, I wasn't calling your post wrong or dumb. I was actually agreeing with your post. I don't believe Pac ducked Soto at all. Just because they were in the same division at the same time and the fight didn't happen it doesn't mean Pac ducked him. And that goes for every weight he's fought at.

I was simply saying the same applies for Mayweather, as plenty of people do exactly what you were saying about Pacquaio, with him.

Why you took some sort of offense to that I'm not sure. But it was a general statment and that was all.

Mayweather Jr. did not duck everyone cause he fought some tough prime fighters in his divisions.

Mayweather Jr. took on Diego Corrales, Jose Luis castillo, and now a prime Victo Ortiz.

Mayweather Jr did duck Antonio Margarito though.

Pac on the other hand, has avoided many fighters that called him out, after Pac repeatedly stated that "he'll fight anybody, anytime".

http://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopi...st=0&sk=t&sd=a

http://philboxing.com/specials/pacquiao_vs_soto/

Pac ducked In Jin Chi
Pac ducked Humberto Soto
Pac ducked Juan Diaz
Pac ducked valero
Pac ducked Guzman
and many others.

Here's Juan Diaz calling out Pac:






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