Top 10 alltime sluggers in boxing history

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  • Lazlow
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    #51
    Originally posted by jimmy1569
    Vitali Klitschko doesn't hold.. only when it's necessary like any other fighter when there's no room to punch.. Watch some of his fights.. he doesn't even give his opponents any chance to get close to him.. you know why.. it's because he's keeping them off of him by punching.. watch the Briggs & Adamek..FIGHTS & count how many times his opponent even got inside.. Vitali does NOT employ the hug & jab tactic his brother utilyzes because he's constantly throwing punches to keep his man at the distance he wants them at.
    I already wrote that, but whatever... And that's EXACTLY WHY HE ISN'T A SLUGGER! Because he keeps his opponent off with his jabs and IS NOT WILLING TO TRADE PUNCHES WITH THEM!

    You answered it yourself. You exactly described what a slugger doesn't do. So therefore, what's the conclusion? Klitschkos ≠ Slugger

    Got it? Good job.
    Last edited by Lazlow; 12-26-2011, 09:06 PM.

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    • JAB5239
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      #52
      Originally posted by jimmy1569
      Ok....name another boxer/puncher or whatever you want to call him who's retired the last 3 opponents he's ever faced.... i'll be waiting for your answer or spin.. whichever comes first?
      Translation..... this means your last 3 opponents never stepping foot in a boxing ring after they faced you..... ok i'll give you another shot at it.

      how about 4 of the last 12 opponents faced not going back to fight another day?

      Every fighter can say they retired another fighter once by default.. but how many can say they've done it 3 in a row.

      I'd venture to say the 3 in a row is another one of Vitali's vaunted records.... 4 out of the last 12 probably is a record as well but it's unofficial.
      Has nothing to do with being considered a slugger. The term is an overall characterization of a style consistently displayed over a career. By definition V is a boxer/puncher the overwhelming majority of the time and his knock outs are a result as such.

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      • jimmy1569
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        #53
        Originally posted by Lazlow
        I already wrote that, apart from the clinching part... but whatever... And that's EXACTLY WHY HE ISN'T A SLUGGER! Because he keeps his opponent off with his jabs and IS NOT WILLING TO TRADE PUNCHES WITH THEM!

        You answered it yourself. You exactly described what a slugger doesn't do. So therefore, what's the conclusion? Klitschkos ≠ Slugger

        Got it? Good.
        Lol.... he trades punches... that means he throws.. nothing in the bible says he has to get hit in return fire... as long as he's covering his end of the bargain.. he's going toe to... whatever his opponent wants to do on there end. & if he only kept 'em at bay with jabs they wouldn't be that much at bay would they.. he throws all kinds of debillitating shots to make sure his opponent doesn't toe the line... & if they happen to toe the line.. see Hide.. see Solis.... See Johnson & ask all three if they know what a third rd feels like against Vitali... pass that line at your discretion.. Sanders, Areolla & Lewis constantly were toeing the line throughout there fights with him.. they both received life altering.. career changing.... TEAR SHEDDING beatdowns for it... when you fight Vitali... you had better be a defensive specialist like Byrd & KJ & escape unharmed while losing nearly every single rd or get the beatdown of your life... it's the opponents decision as to what they decide they be bringing to the table.
        Last edited by jimmy1569; 12-26-2011, 09:19 PM.

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        • jimmy1569
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          #54
          Originally posted by JAB5239
          Has nothing to do with being considered a slugger. The term is an overall characterization of a style consistently displayed over a career. By definition V is a boxer/puncher the overwhelming majority of the time and his knock outs are a result as such.
          I'll take that as ACCEPTANCE of another Vitali Klitschko boxing record... thx for playing.

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          • JAB5239
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            #55
            Originally posted by jimmy1569
            I'll take that as ACCEPTANCE of another Vitali Klitschko boxing record... thx for playing.
            (Yawn ) thank you for letting me educate you again.

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            • loui_ludwig
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              #56
              Originally posted by jimmy1569
              Then you must be correct.. Pac is the #1 counter puncher. You must be smoking some serious hallucination.. if you don't think Vitali Klitschko qualifies as the alltime slugger in boxing history.. For starters he's the ONLY prominent boxer in history NEVER even remotely coming close to being outslugged in a fight... That's one of the main reasons he holds the alltime heavyweight knockout %.... he literally slugs you into submission UNTIL you can't continue fighting... if that's NOT the epitome of the number one alltime slugger.. i don't know what is.
              Did you recover already from that? Look at the replies, nuff said.

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              • Joeyzagz
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                #57
                1. George Foreman
                2. Max Baer
                3. Joe Louis
                4. Earnie Shavers
                5. Lennox Lewis
                6. Rocky Marciano
                7. Mike Tyson
                8. Wladimir Klitschko
                9. Frank Bruno
                10. Jack Dempsey


                My list is based on who punched the hardest. If you want to know the difference between a hard puncher and a volume thrower, watch Ike/Byrd and Vitali/Byrd back2back.

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                • Real King Kong
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by jimmy1569
                  Then you must be correct.. Pac is the #1 counter puncher. You must be smoking some serious hallucination.. if you don't think Vitali Klitschko qualifies as the alltime slugger in boxing history.. For starters he's the ONLY prominent boxer in history NEVER even remotely coming close to being outslugged in a fight... That's one of the main reasons he holds the alltime heavyweight knockout %.... he literally slugs you into submission UNTIL you can't continue fighting... if that's NOT the epitome of the number one alltime slugger.. i don't know what is.
                  except when lewis put a hole in his face and STOPPED him. you...your list and your thread are garbage.

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                  • Jedi Vader
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                    #59
                    Jimmy, man up and do an unbiased poll for this thread.

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                    • jimmy1569
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Joeyzagz
                      1. George Foreman
                      2. Max Baer
                      3. Joe Louis
                      4. Earnie Shavers
                      5. Lennox Lewis
                      6. Rocky Marciano
                      7. Mike Tyson
                      8. Wladimir Klitschko
                      9. Frank Bruno
                      10. Jack Dempsey


                      My list is based on who punched the hardest. If you want to know the difference between a hard puncher and a volume thrower, watch Ike/Byrd and Vitali/Byrd back2back.
                      Byrd retired Ike Ibeabuchi so alot of good those 'hard' punches did him.. The 'volume' punches of Vitali only landed him in surgery but he lived to throw another day... so who actually fared better in the endgame.. I keep telling you guys... with Vitali.. it's NOT about the immediate results & or gratification.. it's all about the aftermath of his destruction (He sicked Wlad after him & told him to destroy Byrd) ( Who do you think sanctioned the hit?Vitali gave the order)... Briggs.. 2 WEEK hospital stay.. Solis nearly same duration.. perhaps he got a better deal at the hospital if he took Briggs old room which was already furnished with the remnants of A Vitali Klitschko patented beatdown. LEWIS ..e nd result... never fighting again.. Vitali's last 3 opponents & 4 of the last 12 STILL haven't come to grips with there beatdowns & stepped in the ring again... These are what I CALL results.


                      Lol @ Ike BEING A HARDER puncher than Vitali... his 20 bouts he's gone the distance 5 times... Vitali IN 45 bouts nearly almost half that amount... You want to use the ole common opponent theory..well just look at the end results of both fighter's bouts vs Byrd.. Ike is in prison serving a majority of his life there & boxing career over.. (although i'm sure when he's 50 he'll make a comeback just to prove me wrong & that he didn';t retire for good).. Vitali SINCE that Byrd fightnight... DOESN'T know the meaning of quit.. has had 17 bouts.. including 13 ko's... became champion two more times..... your honor i rest my case.. as always.. nice try Joe C.
                      Last edited by jimmy1569; 12-26-2011, 11:15 PM.

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