[VIDEO] Floyd Mayweather jr beats Sugar ray LEONARD

[MJ223]

Heres the question could Mayweather beat Benetiz or even Pryor i dont know,Sugar Ray would beat him with out a doubt in my mind though,so would Hearns and Duran.

I would give him the best chance against Pryor..... Not a slight at the hawk in any way but when u compare their credentials too much is stacked against Floyd.... Benitez is severely underrated IMO maybe due to the lack of power but he was slick and fast then a mofo

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****** ***** thread as usual

floyd has never fought at the level leonard did and never took the kind of opponents ray fought so you can never justify any comparison between them no matter how much youtube videos you watch and dissect.

that's like comparing the performance of a department head with the vice president of a company. it will always end up ****** no matter what because there's no comparison in the first place.

[STFU!!]

Leonard had flaws, and Floyd causes anyone problems. But the video seems biased to me.
1. Yea, Ray would sometimes carry his left low. Would Floyd be aggressive as Hearns and Duran to land it often enough? Plus Ray was able to knock down Benitez with a single jab. Benitez was famous for his fast reflexes. Floyd countering slower, smaller WW's doesnt convince me he could do that repeatedly against Leonard.

2. Ray getting hit by jabs. Hearns had a massive reach and great speed. Still got TKO'd. Floyd Snr was throwing multiple jabs, Floyd throws singles.

3. Psychology. Leonard said he wanted to beat Duran at his own game. Which is in-fighting. Against Floyd it would be boxing and countering, something which Leonard was great at.

Floyd takes a little time to get going. Leonard had the power to stop Benitez, Hearns, make Duran quit and compete with Hagler at MW. If Floyd is getting caught clean by Zudah and SSM then Ray could seriously hurt him. Even if he doesnt finish Floyd early, Floyd would have to be more defensive. Against SMM Floyd came back well, but a prime Leonard is a different matter.
Ray may load up with big shots, but those would still do damage. Floyd becomes very passive on the ropes, and Rays power could tell. Even without a KO, Ray is winning rounds if he has Floyd covering up.

Ray didnt throw a punch for 1 min against Hearns early on. Floyd fights nothing like Hearns. He isnt a monster puncher with a massive reach.

Ray on the inside. Try finding moments when Ray was throwing fast combos against Duran and getting the better of him. Or his many moments against Hagler. Terrible biased argument right there.
Why not show Floyd getting tagged on the ropes like he did against Catillo, Oscar, Ortiz and even JMM?


Plus id say we have seen Ray be outboxed yet we know he can brawl, scrap and dig deep when he has to to get the win against ATG opposition. He can box beautifully, but can also exchange and pile on the pressure in the late rounds. I havent sen Floyd have to do that yet. If Floyds skills give him a big lead against Ray, i see Ray turining into a brawl which Floyd might not handle so well because of Leonards speed, power, size and strength.

Also, where is Floyd getting caught by Oscars jab? Wouldnt Leonards jab give him fits? Oscar couldnt maintain the snap, whereas Leonard could go all night.

The video is title floyd beats leonard, not floyd vs leonard. i was just pointing out things floyd can exploit, i wasn't giving a full break down of the fight.

good points,though. but i think in the oscar fight floyd sat down on his punches more because he wanted to hurt oscar. When oscar jabed he'd take one or two steps back and get in position to throw punches.Only time he used his feet was when he was about to be pinned on the ropes he'd quickly circle out. Floyd likes to be close. yeah oscar landed maybe three or 4 jabs the whole fight, but he never seemed to be phased by them; he continued to do what he was doing. Also he had his hand down toying with oscar, that didn't help. I don't think he'll have his hand low or use the shell against ray. he always works off the jab and has his guard up high when facing guys who are fast handed. true ray is bigger, but i've seen guys not as strong as foyd pin him on the ropes, like finch or kevin howard, who is close to floyd in height, not as fast or skilled. he dropped ray and caught him with several hooks and right hands.

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In this second video i tried to avoid using HOF fights and tried to get fights of ray in his prime or close to his prime,(could have easily showed the norris or camacho fight)(same points weaker opposition). Also throwing flurries is not inside fighting imo.

[studentofthegam]

Old Oscar almost beat Floyd.

Prime Ray Leonard would whoop Floyd.

The End.

If thats almost beat then you're just hating. Didnt watch the fight huh son?

Yeah but he was a mere child fighting an ATG but the second time he fought Duran he corrected his errors and made Duran quit. Only Ray Leonard and the night manager at Hometown Buffet can boast that claim.

Floyd would have never been drawn into a fire fight and got it right against Duran the first time.

[The Noose]

The video is title floyd beats leonard, not floyd vs leonard. i was just pointing out things floyd can exploit, i wasn't giving a full break down of the fight.

good points,though. but i think in the oscar fight floyd sat down on his punches more because he wanted to hurt oscar. When oscar jabed he'd take one or two steps back and get in position to throw punches.Only time he used his feet was when he was about to be pinned on the ropes he'd quickly circle out. Floyd likes to be close. yeah oscar landed maybe three or 4 jabs the whole fight, but he never seemed to be phased by them; he continued to do what he was doing. Also he had his hand down toying with oscar, that didn't help. I don't think he'll have his hand low or use the shell against ray. he always works off the jab and has his guard up high when facing guys who are fast handed. true ray is bigger, but i've seen guys not as strong as foyd pin him on the ropes, like finch or kevin howard, who is close to floyd in height, not as fast or skilled. he dropped ray and caught him with several hooks and right hands.

Fair enough. I appreciate the video is more about flaws Floyd could exploit. But the title of this thread suggests a balanced fight breakdown. Maybe the video or thread could have been titled 'How Floyd COULD beat Ray'.

Floyd may of been toying with Oscar (which im not sure i agree with), but Ray was also toying with Floyd Snr imo, and got knocked down against Howard whilst doing his Ali impression after 2 years out of the ring. Howard was also an aggressive Jnr Middleweight.

In this second video i tried to avoid using HOF fights and tried to get fights of ray in his prime or close to his prime,(could have easily showed the norris or camacho fight)(same points weaker opposition). Also throwing flurries is not inside fighting imo.

In a nutshell, i dont see any of Rays opponents in that video fight anything like Floyd does. They were all being very aggressive, throwing multiple big combination punches and bulling Ray around. Very different to how Floyd fights.

[NEELZ]

The best fights on Mayweather's resume would be merely "tuneups" for SRL. He wanted the greatest challenges that boxing could offer. Mayweather wants to stay undefeated, so he avoids the greatest threats. It's been said many times on here and is plain and true.

[MJ223]

The video is title floyd beats leonard, not floyd vs leonard. i was just pointing out things floyd can exploit, i wasn't giving a full break down of the fight.

good points,though. but i think in the oscar fight floyd sat down on his punches more because he wanted to hurt oscar. When oscar jabed he'd take one or two steps back and get in position to throw punches.Only time he used his feet was when he was about to be pinned on the ropes he'd quickly circle out. Floyd likes to be close. yeah oscar landed maybe three or 4 jabs the whole fight, but he never seemed to be phased by them; he continued to do what he was doing. Also he had his hand down toying with oscar, that didn't help. I don't think he'll have his hand low or use the shell against ray. he always works off the jab and has his guard up high when facing guys who are fast handed. true ray is bigger, but i've seen guys not as strong as foyd pin him on the ropes, like finch or kevin howard, who is close to floyd in height, not as fast or skilled. he dropped ray and caught him with several hooks and right hands.

You do know Ray was dealing with a severe eye injury hence the layoff right??? Nice try though.....

[MJ223]

No matter your personal feelings about the fight Ray fought and "beat" at the worst the 3rd best middleweight of all time.... Floyd acts as if Sergio doesn't exist..... I've never seen Sergio even mentioned as possibly beating Hagler Monzon or Hopkins..... Just a coincidence huh???

[studentofthegam]

No matter your personal feelings about the fight Ray fought and "beat" at the worst the 3rd best middleweight of all time.... Floyd acts as if Sergio doesn't exist..... I've never seen Sergio even mentioned as possibly beating Hagler Monzon or Hopkins..... Just a coincidence huh???

Well youre right about it not being brought up but it aintr because Serg couldnt possibly compete or even win against all 3.