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Americans want to be entertained, they fail at that horribly. It's also a country in which we are allowed to dislike who we so choose for whatever reason we see fit. This isn't some ******* regime, no one will force us to like fighters who cannot entertain, end of story.Comment
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As usual.. the same old BS.. blame Klitschko fans for your hatred of the brothers.. as if somehow you'd be supporting them otherwise. That's a bunch of hogwash & laden with excuses. You're basically saying i don't have a mind to think for myself & are giving others control over your actions. The responsibility of whether or NOT you roll with the brothers is of your own doing & your doing only. The fact that you give me & others that much credit just tells me i'm doing my job to the utmost in terms of keeping it real & keeping it factual when it comes to The Klitschko's and how they are perceived by haters of there work.
Son.. YOU'RE either a fan or you';re NOT.. if you were a fan you'd be heaping praise on me for TELLING it EXACTLY as it is & it wouldn't piss you off in the slightest because you'd know everything i'm stating is pretty much on the ball.. i provide factual data.. i use numbers.. i use intangibles & i STRICTLY judge perfor,mance.. i don't judge someone for what they have n't done like most all of you's do.. i judge them on what they've done in the boxing ring & my infinite research tells me that Vitali Klitschko's ONLY flaw is related to his body failing him twice & NOT his boxing skills.. it also tells me that he's been the most dominant fighter in boxing history when every conceivable way to win a boxing match is explored... i'm including his 2 flawed efforts vs Byrd & Lewis....
Not one hater HAS ever refuted my claim of him dominating his opponents like no one before him ever has because deep down they know there's nothing to refute.. there's 100% clearcut & factual evidence & data to support my claim.. so what you ALL conveniently I might add is immediately to try & save face you switch the focus & the onus for Vitali's unprecedented dominance onto his opposition. It's a classic bait & switch tactic so you can feel like you have the ultimate explanation for Vitali's greatness.. deep down you all know i'm right & that i'm much closer to the truth than you are but are still playing the denial game.. despite being faced with so much overwhelming evidence.. more than 15 career achievements he's compiled that no one in the history of the sport has been able to do over 200 lbs.
Let's bLAME ALL 15+ career records on his opponents.. instead of laying the blame on the fists of Mr. Vitali Klitschko. All you can base your opinion on is the 45 different names he's fought & how he's fared against them... you can't put 45 other names in there place & say his performance diminishes because you have NO evidence to support that claim.. all you have is his performance against them.. if we were to go by everyone's distorted logic here.. there's more proof that his boxing performance stays exactly the same becausethat's ALL you can go on.. you have NEVER seen him struggle in any of his 45 bouts.. so what gives you the right to automatically claim that he would if you changed the names on his resume.. if anything me claiming that nothing changes is more closer to the truth because I HAVE evidence of his dominance.. YALL dont HAVE ANY evidence of his non dominance... plus he has size & strength advantages over virtually any heavyweight in boxing history.. so in a court of law who's going to take your word over mine.. it'd be criminal to do so based on all the haters logic. I rest my case.Last edited by jimmy1569; 12-26-2011, 03:40 AM.Comment
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i agree with the article, the point is the american media only glorify athletes as long as hes an american...non-american athletes should work double time just to impess them compared to their american counterparts, just for instance in Pac, no matter how impressive he could be theyll find a way to discredit his wins and when he has an off night they will send him crashing down from the lb 4 lb lists although he won the fight....they replaced him with their own who has too many vacations fought once a year and recently had a win by suckerpunching a non-lb per lb opponent to victory!...thats how easy to be an american athleteComment
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Your words make sense, but not all is so simple. If you think that Hay and Adamek are bloated cruizerweights, then who is Holyfield? Look at the size of heavyweight boxers of "golden 80-th", most of them not more than six feet. Maybe the case is not in that the tall athletes went to the basketball (they always played there) and American football, but in the fact that Klitschko set new standards for HW boxers? From time to time tall guys always came in the boxing, but none of them could not properly dispose of their natural advantages. Klitschko could. As for Seth Mitchell, maybe he just gifted boxer, an unique, exceptional? Do you have a statistics that shows of how many athletes from other sports dabbled in boxing and failed? One Mitchell does not make rule. Indeed, there is serious competition to boxing from other sports, but it has always been. Basketball and football do not appeared today. As for the zero in the record, for example, Povetkin also have zero. Do you know who is this? This is the guy who fights in Finland in the undercard of Helenius vs Chisora fight. You are exaggerating hatered to Mayweather and explaining of his huge paydays by desire of the public to see him losing is far-fetched. Again, partly you are right, but other part is just wishful thinking.People don't hate the Klits because of their nationality lmao, they get hate because of their annoying fans. That and they're boring.
Mayweather is the most hated boxer on the planet and one of the most hated in the history of boxing, and he's American!
We have explained to you OVER and OVER and OVER again why this era is so weak yet you guys don't listen.
The bottom line is that nobody in America cares about boxing. Just look at Andre Ward, already established himself as a top 5 P4P fighter yet gets NO love at all in America. The ONLY big fights you'll see here in America are PR's and Mexicans. Americans just don't support Americans because they're American lol.
Do you even know why Floyd PPV's has any popularity? It's the fact that he's got an 0 on his record, I guarantee you if that 0 was gone he'd be irrelevant. His trash talking combined with his 0 losses also boosts his fame because people want to see him lose. Finally he got a MASSIVE boost of fame from rapper 50 cent. 50 cent, who is EXTREMELY popular in America, basically introduced Floyd to the youth in America as well as nearly every hip hop fan.
Just take a second to think about that. In order for him to even be popular in America he had to go undefeated, 42-0, dominate and become a 5 division world champ, win 7 different world titles, lineal championships in 3 different weight classes and all that **** I mentioned above just to become popular in America.
This division is weak. We've explained to you how our biggest and most gifted athletes are playing these American sports which require you to be big yet you guys deny, deny, and deny some more. You guys say "That's because all of the upcoming American HW's are being defeated by Euros!" yet deny the fact that a bunch of cruiserweights and guys from the 80's and 90's are dominating the American HW boxing scene.
You CAN see the decline in talent, 80% of HW fighters aren't even in shape. Most of them aren't even legit HW's! You can see the lack of power, combo punching, body work, footwork, head movement, defense ETC.! You can observe these things with your own eyes.
Adamek-Blown up Light Heavy
Haye-Blown up Cruiser
Arreola-Blown up Cruiser
Byrd-Blown up LHW
Chambers-Blown up LHW or cruiser
Here are the top American HW boxer rankings:
http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=M&...ry=US&pageID=1
That is HORRIBLE. Guys that started their boxing careers from over 20 years ago are dominating it. There is a reason the American HW division is stale and I just explained it to you. American football and basketball require you to be big and athletic. The biggest, most talented athletes will join these sports.
Seth Mitchell is a PERFECT example of this. Guys like him are a dime a dozen in fooball, he's actually the AVERAGE size for his position in football at 6'2 240 LOL (I'm not joking either). He had dreams of playing in the NFL, while playing college football but wound up with multiple injures, his shoulder/neck as well as knee problems forced him to quit.
He stepped into the ring for the 1st time in his whole life in 2006, already 24 years old. That's when he began his amateur career, for the next two years he went 9-1 then decided to go pro in 2008 despite his major lack of experience. He started pro boxing at age 26. Since then he's 24-0 with 18 KO's and just KO'd a guy who has never been KO'd in his entire career in just the 2nd round.
A guy new to boxing was able to KO a legit HW fighter who had not only never been stopped in his career but had racked up a pro record of 30-3. A guy who had over 200 amateur fights, and LOADS of experience over this inexperienced American fighter was dominated.
That right there just confirms that our would be HW boxers are playing other sports, it also shows just how weak the HW division is.
Mitchell is currently ranked 14th in the world, and 5th in the U.S.
He's an average athlete too, like I said the U.S is filled with these guys.
Just look at these guys' measurements, their natural HW bodies, large massive frames. These basketball players don't even lift weights to get stronger either, this is natural weight. These are NOT slow plodding athletes either, these are fast, huge, agile athletes with great hand eye coordination. Keep in mind that these guys are only 19-21 years old. Look at their body types, their reach (it lists it) height etc. It even lists their body fat.
I can literally list thousands more if you'd like.Last edited by Norton; 01-04-2012, 04:45 PM.Comment
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