Klitschko Hypocrisy.... Great Read!

[raskat]

What an incredibly shitty read.



Terrible, terrible article.

The author expects American boxing fans to just jump up, drop everything they're doing, and start sucking Vitali's dick because he was able to beat Chad Dawson's leftovers in impressive fashion?

"Chad Dawson leftover"...u dumb****. the same Chad Dawson leftover who beat the crap out of Chris Arreola

[Norton]

Good article. But the reasons why Klitschkos doesn't have due respect in USA are their nationality (they are not Americans) and their conflict with HBO. Klitschkos shifted centre of HW boxing from USA to Europe, to Germany, they do not need HBO or American public to make good money, to be millionaires and to be famous. Despite the fact that American public and HBO rejected Wlad, especially after his losses to Sanders and Brewster, Klitschkos ignores it and continue to be successful as if nothing had happened. American television and public feel that they are neglected. And, more painfully is that they are neglected in once purely American, "King's" weight divison - HW. So how do you expect they would react? Right, they blindly claiming that the "era" is weak (but how they can measure it's "weakness" is the great enigma), that Klitschkos are only using their height advantage (are there no other tall fighters? or why, using such lame logic, can't we blame boxers for using their weight, speed ore skill to win?) and other such cheap crap. It's all understood - people can't just easily admit their defeat, but this doesn't make their excuses to be true. Just like Haye's "toe" excuses, "weak era" excuses are plain and simple heap of losers ****.

[vacon04]

What an incredibly shitty read.



Terrible, terrible article.

The author expects American boxing fans to just jump up, drop everything they're doing, and start sucking Vitali's dick because he was able to beat Chad Dawson's leftovers in impressive fashion?

I was surprised when I saw your response and I was going to ask if you knew anything about boxing at all, but then realized you're the Deontay Wilder guy and the answer to my question was pretty obvious.

[Superflo777]

By Johnny Walker

In the wake of another dominant performance—maybe one of his best ever at age 40, no less—by WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko in stopping game Polish challenger Tomasz Adamek last Saturday, it has become clear that the only foes the Klitschko brothers have yet to knock out are in the sports media, and especially the boxing media.



More and more boxing fans are starting to realize that the Klitschkos are indeed the real thing and would have given any heavyweight in history a very hard time of it. But many boxing writers still seem to be unable to write an article giving them any kind of credit without also trying to denigrate them. Most of the compliments they get in the US sports press are very much of the backhanded variety.

This phenomenon is something seldom seen in sports history, and the people responsible for it should be ashamed of themselves. Imagine if, for instance, when Tiger Woods was making everyone else in the golfing world look like amateurs, every single article about him started out with, “Tiger Woods is a great golfer, but….” followed by the inevitable caveats about the weak era he was playing in, and how a prime Jack Nicklaus would have surely beaten him easily.

Or if every article on tennis great Roger Federer, when he was racking up Grand Slam after Grand Slam, had to include qualifiers about how he was just beating up on the tennis version of tomato cans and how a prime Jimmy Connors or John McEnroe would have cleaned his clock.

Crazy? Yet that is exactly what the Klitschko brothers, Vitali and Wladimir, have to contend with every time they post another lopsided win.

A new media low was hit this past weekend in an ESPN blog posting by Richard Fletcher in which the writer noted Vitali’s superiority over Adamek and then spent the rest of his time bashing the Ukrainian fighter.

“No disrespect, but the elder of the two Ukrainian brothers, who have had the heavyweight division on lockdown for what seems like an eternity, is dull, technically awful and has zero charisma,” Fletcher writes.

No disrespect? I’d hate to see what Fletcher writes when he does want to disrespect someone.

Personally, I enjoy watching the Klitschkos demonstrate their unique skills and dominate some very good boxers, but I’ll give Fletcher the first point. Excitement is subjective, so if he doesn’t enjoy watching the Klitschko brothers, fine. I didn’t really enjoy watching Manny Pacquiao’s last couple of fights, either, so I know how he feels.

But “technically awful?”

It’s a fair to say that Vitali Klitschko, who was also a kickboxing champion before becoming a professional boxer, has forgotten more about fighting than Fletcher ever knew. Apparently when Floyd Mayweather goes through a fight and avoids taking punishment, it’s demonstration of boxing skill, but when a Klitschko does it, it’s just dumb luck.

But of course, it isn’t, and during the HBO telecast last Saturday, Emanuel Steward pointed out why in expert fashion.

As Steward noted, Vitali uses subtleties to tease the opponent into throwing punches, often leaning forward and then backward with his hands down, sometimes taking a small step back as well. Vitali’s anticipation and reflexes are such that the opponent usually misses his target entirely or hits his shoulders, as Adamek found out. And then come the brutal counter-punches that rattle the poor Klitschko victim to the bone. “Speed is power,” Adamek said before the fight, but as he found out, anticipation kills speed.

Actually, Vitali Klitschko is far better defensively now than he was when he fought Lennox Lewis and Corrie Sanders. He controls distance better, and takes far less punishment than before. To say that Vitali is “technically awful” is just pure ignorance and a big insult to all the work the man has put into his fighting career and to the great success he’s enjoyed.

And about Fletcher’s next charge. Vitali has “zero charisma?” Again, this seems like a cheap shot, an ad hominem attack. Too often, the media today confuses bad behavior with charisma. “Excitement” equals getting busted with drugs and guns and getting caught staging dogfighting contests. In the reality TV era, tawdry personal behavior often equals a sad kind of fame, a fame acquired with little or no talent or substance behind it.

The Klitschkos are the opposite of that.

Oddly, the Klitschkos seem to represent everything Americans claim to honor (and yes, Fletcher is a Brit, but he’s writing for an American audience): hard work, discipline, familial loyalty. Yet the media here seems to find two heavyweight champion brothers with advanced educations far less interesting than the ***********al Mike Tysons of the boxing world. One gets the feeling that maybe if Wlad or Vitali smacked someone down in a nightclub and then pulled out a gun and shot the place up, they would be better liked in America, and thought to be more “exciting.” Which is more of a statement on current American society than on the Klitschkos.

In my next column, I’ll look at some of arguments that Fletcher and others make to try and downgrade the Klitschkos’ place in boxing history, such as the idea that they only win because they are big men, and the claim that their opposition is far weaker than in previous eras.

Great article and glad to see you back bro.....this place ain't the same without you.

[-Deal With It-]

"Chad Dawson leftover"...u dumb****. the same Chad Dawson leftover who beat the crap out of Chris Arreola

who beat the crap out of Chris Arreola

Chris Arreola

[Pirao]

Or if every article on tennis great Roger Federer, when he was racking up Grand Slam after Grand Slam, had to include qualifiers about how he was just beating up on the tennis version of tomato cans and how a prime Jimmy Connors or John McEnroe would have cleaned his clock.

Actually, he is wrong about this one. As a tennis fan, I know Federer gets criticized a lot for playing in a weak era (weak according to americans of course) and how Sampras is still greater than him even though Federer has him surpassed in almost every conceivable stat, it's one of the reasons why I know many american fans (of any sport) have an agenda and try to discredit foreign athletes of any sport.

Although it's true Federer doesn't receive anywhere near the hate that the Klitschkos do.

[hweightblogger]

Is there any link to this article?

[Superflo777]

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Chris Arreola has fought better opposition and defeated better opponents than your boy Deontay Wilder so STFU before he proves he's any better than Arreola.

[Cutthroat]

Good article. But the reasons why Klitschkos doesn't have due respect in USA are their nationality (they are not Americans) and their conflict with HBO. Klitschkos shifted centre of HW boxing from USA to Europe, to Germany, they do not need HBO or American public to make good money, to be millionaires and to be famous. Despite the fact that American public and HBO rejected Wlad, especially after his losses to Sanders and Brewster, Klitschkos ignores it and continue to be successful as if nothing had happened. American television and public feel that they are neglected. And, more painfully is that they are neglected in once purely American, "King's" weight divison - HW. So how do you expect they would react? Right, they blindly claiming that the "era" is weak (but how they can measure it's "weakness" is the great enigma), that Klitschkos are only using their height advantage (are there no other tall fighters? or why, using such lame logic, can't we blame boxers for using their weight, speed ore skill to win?) and other such cheap crap. It's all understood - people can't just easily admit their defeat, but this doesn't make their excuses to be true. Just like Haye's "toe" excuses, "weak era" excuses are plain and simple heap of losers ****.

People don't hate the Klits because of their nationality lmao, they get hate because of their annoying fans. That and they're boring.
Mayweather is the most hated boxer on the planet and one of the most hated in the history of boxing, and he's American!

We have explained to you OVER and OVER and OVER again why this era is so weak yet you guys don't listen.


The bottom line is that nobody in America cares about boxing. Just look at Andre Ward, already established himself as a top 5 P4P fighter yet gets NO love at all in America. The ONLY big fights you'll see here in America are PR's and Mexicans. Americans just don't support Americans because they're American lol.

Do you even know why Floyd PPV's has any popularity? It's the fact that he's got an 0 on his record, I guarantee you if that 0 was gone he'd be irrelevant. His trash talking combined with his 0 losses also boosts his fame because people want to see him lose. Finally he got a MASSIVE boost of fame from rapper 50 cent. 50 cent, who is EXTREMELY popular in America, basically introduced Floyd to the youth in America as well as nearly every hip hop fan.

Just take a second to think about that. In order for him to even be popular in America he had to go undefeated, 42-0, dominate and become a 5 division world champ, win 7 different world titles, lineal championships in 3 different weight classes and all that **** I mentioned above just to become popular in America.


This division is weak. We've explained to you how our biggest and most gifted athletes are playing these American sports which require you to be big yet you guys deny, deny, and deny some more. You guys say "That's because all of the upcoming American HW's are being defeated by Euros!" yet deny the fact that a bunch of cruiserweights and guys from the 80's and 90's are dominating the American HW boxing scene.

You CAN see the decline in talent, 80% of HW fighters aren't even in shape. Most of them aren't even legit HW's! You can see the lack of power, combo punching, body work, footwork, head movement, defense ETC.! You can observe these things with your own eyes.

Adamek-Blown up Light Heavy
Haye-Blown up Cruiser
Arreola-Blown up Cruiser
Byrd-Blown up LHW
Chambers-Blown up LHW or cruiser

Here are the top American HW boxer rankings:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=M&...ry=US&pageID=1


That is HORRIBLE. Guys that started their boxing careers from over 20 years ago are dominating it. There is a reason the American HW division is stale and I just explained it to you. American football and basketball require you to be big and athletic. The biggest, most talented athletes will join these sports.



Seth Mitchell is a PERFECT example of this. Guys like him are a dime a dozen in fooball, he's actually the AVERAGE size for his position in football at 6'2 240 LOL (I'm not joking either). He had dreams of playing in the NFL, while playing college football but wound up with multiple injures, his shoulder/neck as well as knee problems forced him to quit.

He stepped into the ring for the 1st time in his whole life in 2006, already 24 years old. That's when he began his amateur career, for the next two years he went 9-1 then decided to go pro in 2008 despite his major lack of experience. He started pro boxing at age 26. Since then he's 24-0 with 18 KO's and just KO'd a guy who has never been KO'd in his entire career in just the 2nd round.

A guy new to boxing was able to KO a legit HW fighter who had not only never been stopped in his career but had racked up a pro record of 30-3. A guy who had over 200 amateur fights, and LOADS of experience over this inexperienced American fighter was dominated.

That right there just confirms that our would be HW boxers are playing other sports, it also shows just how weak the HW division is.

Mitchell is currently ranked 14th in the world, and 5th in the U.S.

He's an average athlete too, like I said the U.S is filled with these guys.

Just look at these guys' measurements, their natural HW bodies, large massive frames. These basketball players don't even lift weights to get stronger either, this is natural weight. These are NOT slow plodding athletes either, these are fast, huge, agile athletes with great hand eye coordination. Keep in mind that these guys are only 19-21 years old. Look at their body types, their reach (it lists it) height etc. It even lists their body fat.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kawhi-Leonard-5821/

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-Singleton-1342/

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Harrison-Barnes-5705/

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Greg-Oden-237/

I can literally list thousands more if you'd like.

[norrin]

The Klits hypocrisy is well deserved. The biggest advantage they have is they r so much bigger than there opposition. Which is a reason they have different divisions for weight classes. First the heavyweight division is mediocre at best. Secondly, there r no really good big heavyweights to challenge them. Actually no really good heavyweights period. Athleticism is non existient because the things they do in the ring I have seen an 80 year old do attempting to get a drink of water from a water fountain w/ a walker holding his colostomy bag. Wlad is the most athletic which isn't saying a lot but they r clumsy and unorthodox inside the ring.

If u put a welterweight in the ring w/ a middleweight or a lhw u know what the outcome is going to be. Yes I dislike the Klits because they r the Timmy Tebow of boxing. They r like my Dyson vacuum cleaner - they suck!!!!!