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Lol..... if you're accusing me of writing this article. That would be the ultimate of comps... but then again everything in that article i already knew & since you's don't listen to my logic.. i figured you'd at least adhere to someone who's doing there homework in the press.Comment
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I'll give you an A for effort & while this rebuttal sounds good on paper.. it's flawed beyond recognition & just creates more excuses.. You list A Floyd Mayweather who's an exception to the rule & then you go about listing Seth Mitchell to represent the exception for the lack of the true heavyweight athlete. How come you didn't list Paquaio who gets all kinds of love & recognition from all over the world but is even less dominant than the brothers have been.People don't hate the Klits because of their nationality lmao, they get hate because of their annoying fans. That and they're boring.
Mayweather is the most hated boxer on the planet and one of the most hated in the history of boxing, and he's American!
We have explained to you OVER and OVER and OVER again why this era is so weak yet you guys don't listen.
The bottom line is that nobody in America cares about boxing. Just look at Andre Ward, already established himself as a top 5 P4P fighter yet gets NO love at all in America. The ONLY big fights you'll see here in America are PR's and Mexicans. Americans just don't support Americans because they're American lol.
Do you even know why Floyd PPV's has any popularity? It's the fact that he's got an 0 on his record, I guarantee you if that 0 was gone he'd be irrelevant. His trash talking combined with his 0 losses also boosts his fame because people want to see him lose. Finally he got a MASSIVE boost of fame from rapper 50 cent. 50 cent, who is EXTREMELY popular in America, basically introduced Floyd to the youth in America as well as nearly every hip hop fan.
Just take a second to think about that. In order for him to even be popular in America he had to go undefeated, 42-0, dominate and become a 5 division world champ, win 7 different world titles, lineal championships in 3 different weight classes and all that **** I mentioned above just to become popular in America.
This division is weak. We've explained to you how our biggest and most gifted athletes are playing these American sports which require you to be big yet you guys deny, deny, and deny some more. You guys say "That's because all of the upcoming American HW's are being defeated by Euros!" yet deny the fact that a bunch of cruiserweights and guys from the 80's and 90's are dominating the American HW boxing scene.
You CAN see the decline in talent, 80% of HW fighters aren't even in shape. Most of them aren't even legit HW's! You can see the lack of power, combo punching, body work, footwork, head movement, defense ETC.! You can observe these things with your own eyes.
Adamek-Blown up Light Heavy
Haye-Blown up Cruiser
Arreola-Blown up Cruiser
Byrd-Blown up LHW
Chambers-Blown up LHW or cruiser
Here are the top American HW boxer rankings:
http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=M&...ry=US&pageID=1
That is HORRIBLE. Guys that started their boxing careers from over 20 years ago are dominating it. There is a reason the American HW division is stale and I just explained it to you. American football and basketball require you to be big and athletic. The biggest, most talented athletes will join these sports.
Seth Mitchell is a PERFECT example of this. Guys like him are a dime a dozen in fooball, he's actually the AVERAGE size for his position in football at 6'2 240 LOL (I'm not joking either). He had dreams of playing in the NFL, while playing college football but wound up with multiple injures, his shoulder/neck as well as knee problems forced him to quit.
He stepped into the ring for the 1st time in his whole life in 2006, already 24 years old. That's when he began his amateur career, for the next two years he went 9-1 then decided to go pro in 2008 despite his major lack of experience. He started pro boxing at age 26. Since then he's 24-0 with 18 KO's and just KO'd a guy who has never been KO'd in his entire career in just the 2nd round.
A guy new to boxing was able to KO a legit HW fighter who had not only never been stopped in his career but had racked up a pro record of 30-3. A guy who had over 200 amateur fights, and LOADS of experience over this inexperienced American fighter was dominated.
That right there just confirms that our would be HW boxers are playing other sports, it also shows just how weak the HW division is.
Mitchell is currently ranked 14th in the world, and 5th in the U.S.
He's an average athlete too, like I said the U.S is filled with these guys.
Just look at these guys' measurements, their natural HW bodies, large massive frames. These basketball players don't even lift weights to get stronger either, this is natural weight. These are NOT slow plodding athletes either, these are fast, huge, agile athletes with great hand eye coordination. Keep in mind that these guys are only 19-21 years old. Look at their body types, their reach (it lists it) height etc. It even lists their body fat.
I can literally list thousands more if you'd like.
Truth is foreign athletes get love from all over the world if Media PORTRAYS them in the right light & are marketed properly. The brothers are marketed in a negative light... they're being blamed for what;s all WRONG in the heavyweight division instead of what's right. I've NEVER in my entire lifetime of sports witnessed TWO brothers being the strongest & most powerful fighters in there sport at the very same time.
This storyline ALONE should be a sportswriter's dream but instead it's treated as there worst nightmare & instead of these two fighters representing everything that's good in the sport.. they're the reasons everything is bad in the heavyweight divison.. The brothers are the only ones in boxing history to actually get more of the blame for there opponents coming not in optimal shape to a title fight than the opponents themselves. They're responsible for EVERY single opponent they beat who's not worthy. They represent all big men in the division despite hundreds that are competing at there size all over the world.
They're skills as great boxers are questioned because of there size advantages & then when that doesn't hold water.. the critics go after there boxing styles & to top it off & the ultimate disrespect is that they're called boring.. they get blamed for there own dominance ... we hear doozy's as "why didn't they stop there opponents earlier instead of carrying them... as if other GREAT fighters of the past had a better stoppage rate & most of these fighters got stopped eventually by the Klitschko's despite NEVER being stopped or destroyed in that manner ever before. As you can clearly see the brother's aren't even presented with a win/win scenario.. it's a lose/lose scenario from the getgo..
So nice... spin & all but everyone knows the brother' situation is different than anyone else's.. for starters we're talking an unprecedented two fighters here & is much easier to criticize as a whole than the sum of individual parts.. in other words both brothers get CRITICIZED as a whole for one brother's perceived faults.. if one Klitschko fights in a boring manner... easier to say both fight in a boring fashion... the ONLY distinguishable aspect to both of them is there jaws.. one has a vulnerable one & the other doesn't but that doesn't stop some fans'/haters from stating both can't take a punch... etc.. etc...Comment
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I find it funny how Vitali Klitschko is criticized for being in boring fights. He's been at the heart of two of the greatest slugfests in the past decade vs Lennox Lewis & Corrie Sanders. Fights where straight out bombs were being thrown back & forth for practically the fight's entirety. Simply put.. PRESENT Vitali with a toe to toe situation & he's phocking there regardless of opposition.. Not his fault whatsoever that his opponents lately haven't held there share of the brunt. Shannon Briggs was presented with a chance to do so & chose to be a punching bag.. rather than exchange because survival was MORE important to him.
The last two fighters that at least tried to take it to him.. Areolla & Solis paid dearly.. Areolla went ten rds of walking straight into Klitschko's shots.. went into the heart of the fire. THE results would've been the same whether he had just decided to be at the end of the jab.. but he decided that his ONLY shot was to take it to him unlike other opponents.. he quickly realized he didn't have NO shot at all either way.. Solis tried to box with Vitali.. thought he was slick enough to do so by coming in & out with quick shots... he found out that attempting to get inside of Klitschko's reach better be an accurate proposition with NO room for error.. He made the error of missing wildly.. leaving himself wide open & off balance in the process & that's all she wrote.
Perhaps we DON'T have an exceptional southpaw with deceptive speed & power such as a Corrie Sanders or a great big man such as Lennox Lewis WHO HAS THE reach & the wherewithawal to utilyze it & tag Vitali consistently.. at the moment but then again how many fighters have there been in history that posess those type of traits to test Vitali in that fashion... Vitali comes to fight EVERYTIME.. throws heavyshots throughout a bout from all angles.. invites you to bring it by bringing his hands down.. it is NOT his fault whatsoever that there's NO excitement on his opponents part.. he's MORE than doing his part & all of you know it.... he's just doing it too well is all that is.Comment
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Very good article. I am glad that Klitschkos fight only in Europe.Comment
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Do you not understand that nearly everybody finds the Klits boring? Pac is one of the most exciting fighters in the sport if not the most exciting in the sport. He is one of maybe 5 fighters in boxing that are actually PPV worthy. People want to see action, people want to see brawling, speed, action, disgusting KO's etc. The Klits don't provide any of that nor does the majority of the rest of the HW.
That's what the HW division has always been about, why it was almost always the most recognized division in boxing. This also goes for most of the other weight divisions, people want flash and excitement. Unfortunately a large majority of European fighters have that robotic boring style that Americans hate. Euros find it entertaining and when they hear an American say it's boring they just don't know why so they label them as just haters.
Personally there are only around 2-4 "boring" fighters that I find entertaining, one of them being Dawson, and that's mainly because I like the combos he throws. Ward is also another example of a boring fighter not being popular in America because of his style.
Wlad's fights are ALL the same, Jab, jab, lean on his opponent when they come inside (Has Wlad ever fought on the inside?), right hand, jab, jab, jab, right hand repeat. Vitali was REALLY exciting before his injury, since coming back he hasn't been.
Pac is also fighting in one of the most competitive divisions in boxing, P4P his resume blows the Klits' combined best wins out of the water. The HW division on the other hand is just terrible, it's really bad right now. Once the Klits retire, those belts are up for grabs and I guarantee you that HW champ will receive NO credit at all even if he is American.
Excuses? It's not an excuse, it's an explanation, I'm not making this up at all I can't. I told you how weak the HW division is if a guy like Seth Mitchell can just come in and start dominating, I didn't say Mitchell was going to be a future ATG and beat the Klits or anything. Like I said, Mitchell is an example of a would be American HW, guys like him are a dime a dozen.
I know you nor any other person can find another explanation as to why these American HW's from the 80s and 90s as well as LHW's and Cruisers are dominating. I already explained it to you, I can even go into WAAAAY more depth if you want.
The Klit bros don't get full credit because of their crap competition, it's as simple as that. It doesn't help that they're boring either, that REALLY hurts them. Roy Jones Jr. received A LOT of criticism for that as well, people felt he was fighting crap competition but it was just that he was so damn good he made them look like amateurs. RJJ also proved his talent by moving up and dominating in multiple weight divisions. These were legit fighters though unlike the HW division where we can see the massive decline in talent.
I almost never see the Klits being talked bad about in the media, I've never heard anybody call them names or anything.Comment
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If we judge a Hw's worth on W/L then unbeaten Mavrovic was a higher quality opponent for Lennox than 1 loss Vitali!
I wouldnt rank any of LLs unbeaten victims in the top 10 of his resume'. W/L records are meaningless if youve never held, fought or defended a Heavyweight title. 82% = 82% is like saying 82 Euros = 82 Ukrainian Hryvnia. I cant take those numbers seriously.Last edited by Joeyzagz; 12-25-2011, 02:20 PM.Comment
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