When was the last time Floyd fought a real threat?

[johnm is...]

No offense, because some of those guys were considered live fights for Floyd going in, but you can pick quotes of people picking anyone to beat anyone around here. I'm pretty sure there weren't too many people that really thought Gatti, Baldomir, or Oscar would really beat Floyd, and I remember that while there was a vocal minority saying Ortiz would win, like 90% of NSB voted for Floyd in every poll I saw.

So because people pick a guy to lose to the best boxer on the planet, they instantly become "non threats"?

[THE REED]

Whether you thought/knew Mayweather would beat Ortiz.. he was still a definite threat.

He's 10 years younger... absolutely prime, bigger than Floyd, Southpaw, decent foot/hand speed, and excellent power... and coming off the best win of his career over a fast handed undefeated Berto.

Ortiz WAS a threat... just because Floyd handled it somewhat easily... doesnt mean he wasnt a threat.

[johnm is...]

Whether you thought/knew Mayweather would beat Ortiz.. he was still a definite threat.

He's 10 years younger... absolutely prime, bigger than Floyd, Southpaw, decent foot/hand speed, and excellent power... and coming off the best win of his career over a fast handed undefeated Berto.

Ortiz WAS a threat... just because Floyd handled it somewhat easily... doesnt mean he wasnt a threat.

Careful, pal... we don't want any logical thinking 'round these parts.

[bojangles1987]

So because people pick a guy to lose to the best boxer on the planet, they instantly become "non threats"?

I'm not arguing that these fighters weren't threats. Not at all. Just pointing that out about Wess's sig, you can do that about any fight.

Believe me, I'm not one of these people saying Floyd is cherry picking fights lately. He deserves a lot of credit for dominating Mosley and knocking Ortiz the f*** out.

[The Big Dunn]

Does this mentality work in any other profession?

If a doctor performs a 6 hour heart surgery successfully does that mean the patient didnt really need surgery?

If there is a five alarm fire and the fire dept. comes in and puts it out in an hour does that mean the fire wasn't severe?

If a chef makes a state dinner for the President and it comes off without a hitch does that mean its easy to cook fro the president and heads of state?

If someone's mom gives birth to triplets *******ly without yelling and cursing does that mean pumping out three kids is easy?

[WESS]

No offense, because some of those guys were considered live fights for Floyd going in, but you can pick quotes of people picking anyone to beat anyone around here. I'm pretty sure there weren't too many people that really thought Gatti, Baldomir, or Oscar would really beat Floyd, and I remember that while there was a vocal minority saying Ortiz would win, like 90% of NSB voted for Floyd in every poll I saw.

In the Ortiz situation you are correct. I had just been talking to that dude at one point he had stated that Ortiz would KO Floyd so I had to sig it.

As for everyone else its always the same story. Yes you can do that to any fighter but with Floyd it is ALWAYS the same story. Gatti, Blado and Hoya where all threats as Floyd was moving up in every fight to fight them. He didn't use weight advantages to beat these guys. He moved up and beat them. Outside of Hoya, Floyd beat them to the point that people back peddled and said Floyd cherry picked them and that they where not threats.

This happens EVERY fight. The Mosley fight was the worst ever. But you are correct nobody besides hard core Mayweather haters where picking Ortiz to win. However that does not make him a non-threat. As nobody from 140-154 beats Mayweather IMO.

[jrosales13]

I don't think Oritz was a threat at all...He's too much of a mental midget to be a threat against Floyd. I also think some tried to make him out better than what he actually was. His high ranking at WW was more cuz' of the lact of talent at WW than he's actual accomplishments at said weight.

However, he was a legit opponent. That was the best fight at WW that could be made that didn't involve Pac.

So there should be no complaints or issue with Floyd fighting the best available opponent in his weight-class.

[BoxingGenius27]

NSB was on a roll..

We didn't have any Pac or May threads for a while.... Oh well, back to it we go

[Cassius Liston]

no1s a real threat when ur floyd mayweather. **** he fought a younger jmm at the same weight manny fought him. dominated him, a p4p powerhouse, and hes still not a threat. go figure.

this is what i think too

[straightleft]

He sucker punched Ortiz who lost to a bum Maidana.
He came overweight to beat a lightweight Marquez.
He fought a 1 year and 3 months rusty over trained Mosley.
He fought a light welterweight to his best division welterweight.
Oscar?
Baldomir?
Judah?
Mitchell?
Gatti?
Bruseless?
Corley?
Ndou?
Sosa?

LMAO!

Well, for an instance. None of them are considered a great fighter or HOF fighter at least by the time or in that weight category when Floyd fought them. The only two notable HOF fighters were Marquez and Oscar. But we all know Marquez is a lightweight who never fought at light welterweight let alone at welterweight and Oscar was already shot to pieces, past his prime.